McCain/Palin should not be elected to office just because Plain is not fit to be president, and the chances of her taking on that role are high. Regardless of McCain’s awesome qualifications to be president, which he lacks, but just roll with it, the fact that he’s got Palin as his vice ought to deter all who don’t think she’s smart enough to be president.
Personally, I don’t think McCain is a good choice for president, but the fact that he’s 72 and thus ready to croak, and has got Palin as his back up really seals the deal.
Watch the debate on Thursday to see how really unfit Palin is.
I hope she flees the place in tears, as to how badly I want Biden to crush her.
And when she does break down, I hope Biden pounds her some more as to being
unfit for being president of the U.S.
I’m kind of hoping for that too. Incidentally the right media thinks so too. They seem to think that by being pounded on by Biden, people in US will feel pity on Palin and vote for her. I’m serious. I listen to right media in my car all time. It’s the only channel my '88 cadi gets. It’s hilarious.
Biden ain’t stupid. He won’t make her a martyr. There is no way she can win the support of the “undecided” voters. She’ll concentrate on trying to hold on to the the religious right. That’s the best she can do. My guess is she’ll try to hide behind McCain. The questions will be answered that “John says this, and I support him.” That has been the pattern in all her “interviews.” The only real question is can she generate enough credibility to be a player in national politics or be sent back to Wasilla as another Dan Quayle. I’m guessing the latter.
The moderator is going to ask the tough questions, and all Biden has to do is answer for himself and watch her sink her own boat…
I think she’ll do well. She didn’t win the elections in Alaska by being a complete nimrod, although I realize the stark difference between a vice presidential debate and election and a mayorial or gubernatorial election.
Then again, I saw snippets of her interviews on ABC, and she was not looking good. McCain also had to clean up after her when she told a reporter that she would be for crossing the Pakistan border to persue terrorists, which is Obama’s foreign policy position, not McCain’s.
So, I think anything can happen. I think the biggest problem might be if Biden seems too overconfident or cocky, or if he laughs at her, that people will interpret it as sexist, distasteful, rude, etc.
As a political strategy, McCain should have selected Liebermann, which was his first choice. Doing so, he would have gained the support of the vast group of people who have become disenfranchised with partisan bickering.
However, those people don’t vote in campaign polls, while the right-wingers who would have been up-in-arms over the selection of a life-long Democrat as a VP, do. And so McCain pandered to them by selecting Palin.
Regardless, it’s unlikely he would have won. Dissatisfaction with President Bush pretty much doomed the Republicans this time around, no matter what strategic decisions they make.
I don’t know about that. The GOP machine is really something to behold. They’d be able to sell Satan to at least 40% of Americans if only Satan ran on the republican ticket. Buy a book that talks with cults, and then start listening to right talk radios and FOX news. What they’ve done is both scary and morbidly interesting.
I know one thing, Dems are spending a lot of time trying to convince Republicans she’s isn’t qualified etc. etc. etc. The same old accuse your opponent of what you’re doing strategy. The fact remains she’s got more experience and is more consistent than Obama, much less Biden.
The Paineful Truth: I know one thing, Dems are spending a lot of time trying to convince Republicans she’s isn’t qualified etc. etc. etc. The same old accuse your opponent of what you’re doing strategy. The fact remains she’s got more experience and is more consistent than Obama, much less Biden."
K: Yah, um as Governor in charge of the Alaska national guard, OH RIGHT, she never gave a single order to the
Alaskan national guard. She can see Russia from her from door step, so she clearly has foreign relations experience and
as her plane once landed on Irish soil, so she is an expert on European relations and she ate an burrito once and that
makes her an Latin American expert, and after watching a nova show on global warming, she is of course she is an expert
on global warming, after watching a movie about FDR, she is now an economic expert and can lead us out of this current
economic situation and she wears shoes and she bought groceries in a union store and now is an expert on unions.
She has voted and thus is an constitituional expert. You are right she is an expert on everything and is thus more qualified then ANYBODY
on the planet Earth.
Thursday night is going to be VERY interesting… I think it’s telling when conservative columnists who support the republican party are saying she isn’t qualified, and that McCain screwed up putting her on the ticket, and even suggesting he dump her for someone who IS qualified, the handwriting is pretty much on the wall. The campaign strategy of keeping her from rough and tumble questioning simply highlights the fact that she isn’t ready for prime time anything.
I’d bet she is brighter than the McCain campaign is allowing her to be presented, but like Dan Quayle, it isn’t going to make any difference at this point. All the campaign people can do at this point is present her as a martyr and look for some sympathy vote. I’d bet they already have the press releases ready screaming that the dems and the “elitist media” are picking on poor little Sarah - before the debate has happened.
She has been useful for propping up the votes of the party faithful, but even that is losing its lustre. Its amazing. People are actually beginning to ask questions and expecting answers - and they aren’t getting any.
McCain did one thing that was needed. The republicans need to pull in the extreme right votes and Palin has managed that. But I don’t think he saw that he was taking a bite out of the poison apple. The undecided votes they also need aren’t happening, and the whole Palin phenomena is going to be neutral at best, and probably a negative before November.
There are going to be a half dozen books written about this next year. I’m looking forward to reading one or two. I enjoy humor.
This reminds me so much of the last election. The Democrats put up pretty terrible candidates, thinking that ‘no one wants four more years of Bush’, and when anyone points out the problems with their candidates they, like Kropotkin on this and many other threads, focus solely on what’s wrong with the Republicans.
Not that it really makes any difference - they’re both backed by Wall Street and the next four years of US policy will be decided by the Fed anyway, regardless of who gets ‘elected’.
Whatever you say about Palin, the VP candidate, I can turn around on you in spades with Obama, the presidential candidate. BO has never been in the military and the only (executive ?)“experience” he can muster at all is for being involved in community organization (?) Being in charge of the National Guard is great experience (where orders and control are exercised continuously), and as governor, she’s also responsible for business/foreign country relationships with the state, dealing with bureaucrats in government and their legislature as well as being the chief executive. She made her first ever national speech with incredible poise and without the first stammer or stumble.
On top of all that, she has an 80% approval rating, which would have to include a lot of Democrats. Looks to me like she’s the Democrats worst nightmare. If they really thought she was stupid or incompetent, they’d be keeping their mouths shut and letting her keep her own feet in her mouth–sort of like the Republicans are doing with Biden. (Ohh, ouch!)
I trust her judgment, so the only thing I’m worried about is if they “coach” her strengths out of her instead of giving her her head. This election is McCain’s to loose and tying her hands behind her back would be a big step in that direction.
She is losing ground on key issues across the board - not just in one poll, but in ALL polls. Of course, the same is happening to McCain. I applaud your willingness to support the republican ticket, but you might want to present credible information if you wish to be seen as having a realistic grasp of what is happening…
Perhaps she will pull the chestnuts out of the fire tonight. It’s possible, even if highly unlikely. I think a lot of people will feel sorry for her. She is obviously way in over her head, but I doubt that voters will feel sorry enough to put her close to becoming president. People can be fooled part of the time, but not ALL of the time. She isn’t ready for the national stage. Maybe in another eight or twelve years, but not now.
Being bright isn’t a prerequisite for being democratically elected. If it were, it wouldn’t be a democratic election.
But suit yourself, if you think politicians should be able to flatter you concept of intelligence before they’re allowed to stand.
There’s a lot more to it than that.
The candidates, once again, are pretty poor across both parties. I’d like to think that my home country will contest an election in the next two years with better candidates and more inspiring platforms and policies.
I’d like to think that. Probably won’t happen though.
Sure, no argument here. Being smart isn’t a requisite. It ought to be a preference of the voter, though. Not sure what kind of a person would think otherwise.
Not just be able to flatter my concept of intelligence; actually flatter it. And what’s your point? Make it explicit for me, will ya, because from the above statement I can only get a hint that some point is being made.
Let’s it hear it…for my part, I think if Lucifer ran on either party’s platitudes, he’d get at least 1/3 of the total vote.
Suit yourself, if you think politicians should be able to flatter your concept of being good across both parties before they’re allowed to stand. :-"
I find it depressing these so called debates are no longer debates and they no longer have all the candidates at them. where are the rest of the presidential candidates and VP candidates? I said it before and i will say it again the Dems and the Reps are in bed together shamefully. They trade positions willingly. It is no longer an election. The president and the VP have already been decided by the two parties. They made their deal between them. We have no say. All of this political mumbojumbo crap is just covering up their bed time antics between them.
I’m serious. I listen to right media in my car all time. It’s the only channel my '88 cadi gets. It’s hilarious.
Perhaps among the religious fundamentalist bloc, but maybe you haven’t been looking at all of the polls, just the ones you like.