Sex, Money, And Civilization

Philosophy Forums Society, Government, and Economics
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Behind every level of control, monopoly, exploitation, tyranny, disenfranchisement, and coercion that are conventional arsenals of all governments which are masks for prevailing oligarchical structures that call themselves authorities there is the widespread use of money and sex as forms of social manipulation.

We can describe money and sex as the prime manipulating forces concerning the absolute control of any given human population.

Without these forms of manipulation, there would only be violent physical force left in the arsenal to manipulate and coerce a given human population.

In these regards sex and money are the most passive aggressive forms of population manipulation which we can observe or witness ourselves everyday.

What is the family of the end result of a sexual union is also preyed upon for uses of control by government powers as well.

Now that the independence of the traditional family unit is destroyed fully collectivized children along with the sexual union itself becomes monopolized and under the direct control of the state itself.

In all of this money is the religion and key component of the state as it a monetary theocracy. Sex itself then becomes entwined in this expansion of control as it is essential to in order guarantee greater control over the population through money.

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You have never really studied social animals have you? This includes predator, prey, omnuvores, carnivores and herbivores. Also this does not mean studying books and papers that agree with you. You must also include your own observations on top of others

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Spot on Tyler.

Kris - it’s not so much for the older generations as the ones growing up now that Tyler’s analysis applies.

Count yourself lucky to have lived in a relatively free world, and to be too old to be of interest to the gods.

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People think that somehow utilizing or posting the word social used in conflating things within the context of a conversation is good.

Every time somebody wants to baffle somebody else with bullshit or hide behind an endless list of excuses it is either the words social or cooperation that are brought up. :laughing:

Then of course, the biggest steaming pile shit of a word morality is the final thing brought up.

Of course what is funny is that humanity is by far the least social or cooperative animal out there…

We look horrible even by the standards of the brutal raping troop of chimpanzees.

Yet we are not talking about other animals as the human creature is solely the study here upon this further analysis.

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How well can you understand humanity if you do not study life? The societies of sentient animals through to lowest order allows us to see our core. Why do we have leaders? Why bond? Why fight our own species and on and on to many questions icluding corruption. The dolphin is capable of great corruption and perversion as are your chimps, why? One reason among others is curiosity. Curiosity is a primary reason for this. This is just a small part but, if you have no desire to truly learn and are quite content to just complain as many followers of many social species do, at least you are normal.

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If you have money you can get all the sex you want but if you have sex, you can not always get all the money you want. This is a corrupt system because money belongs to the bank who makes it and sex belongs to the person who has the sexorgans that do the sex. So sex should be able to buy money, WTF it is all so unfair if you think. Thinking hurts and not just the brain.

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I agree with much of the OP, but I would add in fear, anxiety, self-hate, shame, teaching people to distrust their intuitions and emotions (and thoughts) and overload (sensory, emotional and more)
as some of the main Tools used to mess people up to where they can only Think down path A or path B, both of which lead to Walmart.

Way Before kids really have a lot to do with sex or Money, they have already been trained not to be themselves, not to trust themselves and to be worried about a lot of stuff for no reason. Add in that they are being bombarded and educated.

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What’s “funny” is the idea that you might actually believe the nonsense you’re spewing.

Least cooperative? Really? Do you have any idea how many different people, across how many different industries, across how many different countries and continents and oceans, had to cooperate to produce the machine you’re using to type your opinion that human beings are the “least social or cooperative animal out there…”?

I don’t have a link handy, but look up Leonard Read’s essay “I, Pencil” and then come back and tell me just how terrible us humans are.

Give me a break.

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I just would like to comment on the demonization of ‘money’ in this thread. Money is simply a tool to motivate the transactions of labour from one incumbent to another. Some individuals, the ones with virtue, do not rely on other people’s money because they pride themselves in their own accomplishments. To be able to produce something, become a contributive factor in it all. It is true that many of us find ourselves in a situation in which society leaves us no room to ‘produce’ something by our own accord (aka. being jobless). This is why I am a communist at heart because ultimately every person would get a chance to work/contribute/produce/be-active without general bias as such.

Not everyone either sees sex as the sole motivating drive and purpose in one’s life. Take the Dalai Lama for instance or a myriad of other renowned individuals. They in turn shunned sex as a way to focus on other areas of enlightenment in their own lives. Civilization indeed thrives with money, it itself only being a tool to facilitate the value and ardour that is put into one’s work. Money becomes an itemizing mathematical extrapolative object rather like the Abacus is to mathematical problems. Sure, everyone wishes for more money but think about it how much more valuable it would be to have accrued money by one’s own self accomplishments?

Eudaimonia, true eudaimonia (or eudemonia) can be only be achievable if one is at peace to oneself. I indeed wish I were given money but this just so I could better spend the money into things that would foster my own intellectual and life ambitions - aka sometimes. to create more money. The animal kingdom tells us a lot about money. Many species will hoard food supplies to last them through entire seasons even and to feed their offspring, this being equitable to money. Some bird species will be more unscrupulous and literally steal bits and pieces of other birds nests to glorify their own nests so as to attract a mate and ruin the chances of the competing bird to snagging a mate. Sex then becomes a matter of survival of the species where evolution plays a crucial role - survival of the fittest. Is this necessarily the right thing to abide in human sentimentality though? We, unlike animals, are imbued with a soul, and by every account one’s soul is worth just as much as any other person’s soul under God’s eyes.

Jealousy, envy, hatred are traits in humanity that should be avoided at all costs because it is against God’s will. If one chooses to pursue the path of money accumulation one should be attentive to the fact of leisure time lost (unless work is your leisure then that is a bonus and you are indeed blessed). The pursuit of sex should always be done so in a virtuous manner because, sadly enough, others are hurt at the thought that their sexual partner has/may indeed have been intimate with many others. Sex is an act that should accompany love, and love is the most sacred of human emotions and in order for it to be real, for civilization to foster as a loving one, we have to make certain that we are truthful in all our actions, words and deeds. Without being truthful to oneself, or to society for that matter, civilization cannot prosper forwards as there are certain charitable unalienable truths we in humanity cannot deny. Whether you believe in God or do not it does not matter… Civilization prospers forward with order and a good sense of justice, and it is only when we let go of the obsessive fixation of money and sex that we can enjoy the beauty and tranquillity of a sound mind in tune with existence and hence our surroundings.

I have only met a few individuals in life (very old ones at that) that achieved eudaimonia (see Aristotle if you do not know what it is - meaning to life the universe and everything in my opinion). Serendipity plays a lot in this pursuit but ultimately, as a God loving Christian, I believe that at one point in the next life therein we ALL achieve the same level of utter satisfaction of life, and so I hope.

Back to OP question… ‘Sex, Money, and Civilization’. Religion has paved forth civilization, sex ensured continuity of the species, and the advent of money improved our lifestyles due to the acquirement of specializations in professions. Sure, some see sex as a recreational activity, some see money as a symbol of power, and some do not really care about society at large other than their own ego centrical selves. There is a bit of truth to all of it, but one thing that can be learnt from some animal species (ie: ants, bees, etc…) is that communal awareness leads to a better life not only for the incumbent in question but everyone. A bit of consideration for your fellow brethren is my message in this quick spiel. lol :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Money or currency isn’t just simply a medium of exchange. Although that is what the official narrative would have everyone believe in. It’s a tool of control and forced dependency by the state. This is why every state has the endorsement of its own currency.

If anything money is a symbol of the monopolization of labor.

If people actually had any power or independence in their own labor there would be no need for the existence of money whatsoever.

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though they likely have relied on the unwilling sacrifices, suffering and mistreatment of people at the very least in other countries, if not their own also. And in the US money is something we are taxed on to create, by a private corporation no less. But I’ll let Tyler take on the issue
of what money is in the US.

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Due to the fact that the money economy, also known as monetarism or finance, is too much in line with energetic resources we would have a very much better economy, if it were more in line with knowledge, wisdom, information than with energetic resources.

Another point is the relation of production and reproduction. All fertility rates have to be almost equal, and after that (not before and during that) the rich and the poor will also become more equal, not equal - because that is impossible -, but relaitively equal. That is a fair deal. Else the result will be: Stone Age or even extinction!

But the more the machines are successful the more the human beings are threatened with extinction.

So we have three great modern human erros or mistakes: 1.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false input of machines; 2.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false demographic policy (population policy); 3.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false concentration on energetic resources (instead of knowledge, wisdom, information) by the money economy.

Hyperbolism, hedonism, utilitarianism, individualism and all the other nihilisms are those problems, which became as much bigger as the attempt to control them in order to prevent chaos, anarchy, and - last but not least - overthrow, downfall. It’s a vicious circle.

So a solution of the three great modern human erros or mistakes seems to be impossible: 1.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false input of machines; 2.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false demographic policy (population policy); 3.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false concentration on energetic resources (instead of knowledge, wisdom, information) by the money economy.

No one wants to take responsibility!

Do you have any suggestion?