Sexocracy

$50.00? No way!

More like $200.00 per hour.

Yeah, times are tough economically.

Even the street hookers are forming unions where you have to pay for their dental, medical insurance, boob jobs, and coat hanger wire back alley street abortions.

Well, in regards to porn being a spell, are you saying that porn makes men not want to have sex with real flesh and blood women, or that it targets men who (already) don’t want to have sex with real flesh and blood women, and hooks them into an addiction? Kind of like a rat who gets caught in a trap bated with cheese. The rat has to want the cheese to begin with in order to get trapped.

Don’t get equal started on drugs.

I’m fine because I have a family and I’m happy. This doesn’t mean I’m always happy in all areas or that I can’t target some fundamental challenges in the human condition. To not do that would be terrifying. I’d be some weird robot walking around smiling. There is no prerequisite of banishing essays about “hardness” from being fine. You really use a broad brush.

And speaking of hardness. As common with certain truisms like romance movies are nothing like reality, you have taken it as an axiom, a dogma, and the gray area truth is lost on you. The real truth is that some parts of some movies are not only true but hyper true, and can be satisfying, entreating and poetic. I’ve had a 20 year marriage. Have you? Some of it is exactly like a romance movie in retrospect. I didn’t set out to make it so. And it wasn’t a cheesy one, although parts of are over board and notebook, other parts are jerry McGuire or green card. They just are. These larger than life stories imitate life and we imitate them. I’ve been enriched by the process as much as I’ve been let down by it.

Your false dichotomies are fine for facebook. Here you need to be a bit more discerning. We come here to get away from the kind of unthinking absolutes you’re spewing. (I’m not mad, this is fun.)

Porn - you keep insisting its fake. It’s as if you swallowed the screenplay of Don Jon and are not puking it up. Don Jon – partial truth, not full truth. I think you need to take your own advice. The easier truth is loving real sex is real and porn is devoid of reality and a joke in every case. The ACTUAL truth is that porn can be fun and harmless, as much as anything. Even an Apple has sugars that oxidize and age your cells. Nothing is fully without damage. But there have been great scenes in porn. For instance, in the cfnm category. That is insanely awesome. It has informed me and inspired me to be a better man.

Either those are thailand trannies with godlike bodies, or they are ripping you off.

Porn is partial truth in the sense that a Hollywood movie is partial truth. The sky exists, the ground exists. This is real. In Porn, the bodies exist, and the bed exists. This is real. Everything else is scripted, fantasy, faery land, to suit a cinematic narrative.

So watching videos about naked men in bondage and women jerking them off inspired you to be a better man. There is very inspiring hope for humanity.

It certainly feels like a rip off especially when they don’t make it any fun.

Believe it or not that’s minimum pricing.

I’ve across hoes with model like bodies going between $300-350.00 per hour.

Fun is contagious. You gotta ooze bubbly. Put the purple suit on for the hour.

Your over-prices must be a regional thing. Where I’m from you can get laid for 5 dollars and a bag of lays.

Depends on what your target company is.

I always go after college district prostitutes myself.

You can get cheaper ones that are your garden variety street corner drug addict but with the whole missing teeth and prolonged meth usage I would just rather watch porn than deal with all that shit.

Street prostitutes are the kind to take the money and run without servicing also. Been there, done that.

Most of them had full teeth and looked like your average boring vanilla college girl. As expensive as college is these days, kids gotta pay the rent somehow.

In the monetary era of the commodification of just about everything they have a commodity or utility that I don’t mind purchasing time and time again. Symbiotic relationship really.

One of these days I am going to run into a recent college grad at a hospital and have her thank me for funding their education.

I don’t see why the price of a prostitute would work any differently than any other commodity on the free market–it’s just supply and demand after all–if your sex don’t sell, you gotta lower your price, and I’m sure there are plenty of toothless meth heads who are too diseased and fat for any John to care spending money on… but everyone’s gotta make a living, so in a move of desperation, they lower their price… and I don’t see why it can’t go as low as $50.

Of course, in business, there’s a minimum one can charge before going out of business. If $50 is too little to afford food and shelter, she would look for a more lucrative area to make money… but then again, I can’t be so sure everyone has the luxury of that option, but if they don’t–if prostituting one’s self for $50 a hit is the best one can do–then it won’t take long before that person simply starves to death.

Then there’s scenarios of women (and I suppose men) who prostitute themselves as a side job–making enough money in their main job to cover the rest–or to cover all their necessities and maybe more, but with spare time on their hands, and without any shame or feelings of stigmatization, they sell themselves for sexual favors for a price that might be as low as $50 or less (hey, having another job to pay the bills doesn’t make you beautiful or desirable in any way).

A question to OP if he is still there.

/ My English is not quite good for philosophy debates that is why I beg for your pardons in advance./

First of all I think the thread is interesting both by its original announcement and its subsequent development. I would be interested to read your book Tim (equla2u), once it is published.

I saw that many posters have urged you to read the novel “Brave new world” by Aldous Huxley. I have not read it myself, however I was interested and I put it in my ‘to read’ list. Anyway my first thought upon reading the original post was that it [a world based on sexocracy] would be a great idea to be explored by any art. Much like the idea of The Brain in a Vat which finds it art realization in the Matrix movie…

I also appreciate the great humor of one called equal2u when he is saying that he is also the most brilliant mind in the universe :wink:

Truth be told - I really cannot imagine such a society working. Because I believe the human nature is all the time seeking and thus it cannot be satisfied by default. In other words I think any attempt to satisfy a human being is inherently doomed to miscarriage.

I would not be also advocating for its establishment. If not for any other reason for my personal understandings and feelings. I am quite jealous person (I know it’s mainly bad/ evil trait but it is still human, all too human). I would never agree to share a girl I love. Thus if a society stimulates the beauties to be SSPs it will significantly limit my personal choices still at the beginning. And It would be oppressing to me. I should be restricted by social order and public value system.

As from what I understand SSPs would be [predominantly] young and extraordinary beauty and sexy.

It is undisputed [I think] that not all people are materialistically motivated so IMO we can assume that part of the beautiful yang people would prefer other professions (i.e. they will not all run for getting super luxury status.)

So If the beuaty is objective quality [as OP generally claimed at least in the beginning of this thread] – it will decrease the number of the candidates who are fit for the service.

But Even if we take it for granted that ‘the beauty is in the eye of the beholder’ (i.e. beauty is mostly subjective) there will be a lot of ‘beauties’ who are not able to provide sex pleasures. [Be that for technical or psychological reasons. For example if I am a bad lover {at least in the beginning of a relationship, let’s say not pathetic but technically substandard}, my girl friend might still show patience and have a satisfaction with me because she as they say love me. But if I am a hardworking member of sexocracy society who has get its access to luxury status with its honest and fatiguing labor for all most of my time, I would be [presumably] not so patient if a SSP did not please me as much as I would have expected…) I am curious what punishment there would follow for a SSP who did unsatisfactorily but that is not so important actually.

All that considered I guess there will be a constant deficit in the system, most like the deficits for almost all luxuries and often standard goods in the so called communist pathetic with planned resource oriented economy.

Apart from all that (like I already pointed out above) I think that people always aim towards what they cannot have or towards what they cannot have in (great) quantities/ all the time/ at first whim. That being said I am afraid unlimited access to sexual services will actually demotivate people in having these ‘for free’ or as a form of unlimited and never depleting source of social security. (I guess standard status member also have access to SSP, right?)

Thanks for your answer in advance!

-flo-

Your English is better than my Bulgarian.

Thanks.

Thanks, but I’ve finished my reading and I’m writing now.

Equal2u means all humans are equal in value. Whether they have brilliant minds or severe learning difficulties.

The Sexocracy does not satisfy human beings ‘by default’. There is plenty of satisfaction across the world today, sexually and in many other ways. Especially for the very rich. Not so much for the poor. The Sexocracy aims to increase the levels of satisfaction across the world.

That’s your problem. The Sexocracy is designed to please everyone. In the Sexocracy you will be freed from your selfishness.

That’s what people want.

Rewards for being an SSP are not just material. The SSPs have the highest social status as well. Although I’m sure some beautiful people will choose other professions.

It’s subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But some will be beheld by more as more beautiful than others.

No ‘punishment’ at all. If an SSP can’t do it then she/he can’t be an SSP. But it’s not a highly skilled profession. Sex really isn’t that difficult.

The Sexocracy is a new political and economic system to maximise human happiness and minimise human suffering.

Standard status have no access to SSPs. You have to work for luxury services. Sexual services are not unlimited in the Sexocracy, they are limited by the numbers of SSPs and the reasonable hours they have to work. In a rational society, people will be rational and will accept what society can provide.

Thanks for your questions. But I may not respond to any more as I’m concentrating on writing my book now, not on discussion forums.

It’s interesting the way this thread has restarted though.

Question is, do people in the Sexocracy get free sex-changes? Thing is, one of my (girl)friends wants to have a penis, but I can’t afford it. Can wo(men) upgrade their DNA as well? Thing is, I can’t see Steve Urkel types getting hard in the bedroom.

‘Upgrading DNA’ only exists in science fiction at the moment. In the Sexocracy science will flourish and new advances in medicine will appear at an accellerated rate. I’m very cautious about sex changes. It isn’t really possible as the difference between men and women exists at a fundamental biomolecular level. In my experience people who have sex changes are often unhappy with the result. Gender dysphoria would be treated in the Sexocracy but full gender reassignment procedures would be discouraged.

That is not true. There was a man who looked like a woman due to androinsensitivity syndrome. They had xy chromosomes but a vagina and no womb. Later they focused their mind, and developed a womb through mental concentration.

I have only met one transwoman who was not happy after her sex change. Legend says, after her sex-change, she heard the voice of Satan in every song of the radio.

You’re just talking shit to be a troll and an idiot so I’m not responding to you any more. Don’t waste my time.

I may be a troll but what I speak are true words, be warned and take heed ye of wisdom ye of few.

Hey Trixie, what’s your new avatar?

Looks like a smurf’s ass.