I don’t have to fucking do anything for you, least of all agree, until you convince me, and you are not convincing anyone without the how, the plan, the rationale.
What don’t you get about it? Society isn’t some abstract idea like God you can just bullshit about. It is a living, breathing, mechanism. Talking about it involves manipulating that mechanism. You can’t just say something about society, you have to demonstrate this principle you are stating at work, in its living form, its living revelation. What you are doing is babbling about what you want to do with a bunch of lego blocks, but you haven’t even shown that it is physically possible to make this thing of yours that you want given the properties of the goddamn fucking lego blocks.
You can’t make a sphere out of a bunch of square lego blocks, and you can’t make a fucking sexocracy out of human beings.
It’s nice to be your autistic little friend Ascolo.
The reason is because we’re living in a world full of poverty, crime and insanity, constantly teetering on the brink of economic collapse and nuclear war. The plan is the formation of Sexocratic society. The first society in balance with nature.
The how remains the same: I need others’ support, whether as a cult leader or as a political leader it doesn’t matter. Pezer agrees with me, so you are wrong that I’m not convincing anyone.
Pezer is trolling you. If you were not autistic, you would know that.
And that isn’t a plan. It’s an order. An order you haven’t even shown us how to carry out. An order that cannot be carried out.
Watch this, I have a plan too: Everyone become great artists and experience that true, lofty happiness, that people like Equal2u do not know anything about. That kind of happiness that does not come from satisfying a need, like sex, but rather from an abundant strength and the comprehension of one’s own strength that can only come from self-conquering, great trials, and great victories. We can incentivize the whole of society toward attaining this goal universally, all men will become worlds and gods unto themselves, and a true equality can appear on earth; an equality of strengths, not poverty and weaknesses.
Oh yeah, I didn’t tell you how to accomplish this task. Just do it. Report back to me when you’re done. We can meet up for pizza or something.
That isn’t how it works, equal2u. You need to come up with a plan, not an order. A plan. Plan. Look it up in the dictionary. A plan involves the how-to aspect, the thing you do not have, the thing you will never have, because you suck at thinking.
I can think of new utopias ad infinitum, like the artist-philosopher society I just mentioned. Plato had his, etc. There are millions of different utopias we can imagine. But guess what? Nobody knows how to actually create one. It has never worked. Because all utopian thinkers fail in the same way I described you as failing, they treat society like it is an abstract idea in the manner of God which they can just bullshit about, instead of as a living, breathing mechanism that needs to be actually manipulated- as a mechanism, if any real theory is going to be conceived with regard to it.
I’m not trolling. Y’all can’t get over your indoctrinations. This is a smart fucking idea.
It’s not an order, it’s an ideology. I have no power to order anyone to do anything. You can’t force a Sexocracy. Sexocracy is about freedom. You can’t force people to be free.
Thanks, Pezer.
Ideology is a synonym for stupid bullshit and or stupid bullshit lies. For the reasons I just gave. I’ll post these reasons again:
I can think of new utopias ad infinitum, like the artist-philosopher society I just mentioned. Plato had his, etc. There are millions of different utopias we can imagine. But guess what? Nobody knows how to actually create one. It has never worked. Because all utopian thinkers fail in the same way I described you as failing, they treat society like it is an abstract idea in the manner of God which they can just bullshit about, instead of as a living, breathing mechanism that needs to be actually manipulated- as a mechanism, if any real theory is going to be conceived with regard to it.
You have openly stated: " The how is for others. All people have to do is agree with me…" And now you have openly admitted you are a mere ideologue- the lowest form of life on this earth. You have discredited yourself in every possible way, I hope you know that. Not that it was needed: your “ideas” discredit and lampoon themselves.
equal, yes society is teetering on the edge of collapse and the economy you propose would send it barreling over, it simply will not work.
While I can see (not agree with put certainly perceive) your desire to elevate prostitutes, make free love, and create a society in harmony with sexual desire; your “sexocracy” model will not work. It will fail horribly as an economy in anything more advanced than a neolithic tribe and with more than 100 people.
As the creator of a system it is your responsibility to actually create the system.
Thanks, Khrone.
After reading the past two pages You might have a bit of a challenge, his stubborness is outweighing reason.
I’m prepared to accept the possibility that I might be wrong and you might be right Kriswest. Are you prepared to accept the possibility, even just the tiniest bit, that I might be right and you might be wrong?
Women control men’s pocket books. Look at the statistical average of who has the most disposable income in America when it concerns sex ratio.
Take that and shove it.
This thread isn’t for your paranoid misogynist delusions.
equal, fighting fire with fire here…
Not really, Pezer. I’m just not interested in getting into a debate that isn’t about the topic I set for this thread.
Are your supportive messages for me tongue in cheek or do you really agree with what I write?
I don’t really agree, because I am an anarchist, but I trully believe that it is smart and that, out of all the Utopias I have heard about, I think this is my favorite.
Not toungue in cheek.
And my point was that, if you are getting ad homed, ad homing back usually just initiates a troll war. You are better off ignoring them, or finding good points in their comments and responding only to that.
You have to start getting used to the idea that anything that is new and different will automatically be hated by most people, either because they are afraid of change or because they are pushing for their own new and different thing.
Yours is good. From a sincere supporter, my advice is to start trying to sketch out details. That will take care of a fair portion of haters, who simply feel that basic ideas are beneath them in general.
If you know your enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the result of many battles.
The assumption underlying this idea must be clarified. Given the way society is being projected to itself at this time, the idea of a sexocracy is in a sense a statement of fact. Since God is dead and morality is disabled as producing the bliss of idealizing, the sexual object has become the ideal, at least for the passive herd that was before attending the church and sitting out the sermon. For the passive idealizer, a “Sexocraxy” may well be the perfect cage.
Roles have exchanged actors. In the time of Christianity, sexual idealization was the practice of the poets, the philosophers, the occultists and architects of cathedrals. It was reserved for the least conditioned, creative beings. But now it is here for the people, and it could be used, if presented with the dramatic flair of the catholic church, to attempt at the type of authority the Mother/Son symbol achieved - an idea compelling obedience to an institution.
The sex-workers would be the priests, the whore-madam the pope - this does make sense to a certain type of human, approximately the type being raised at this point, if one manages to idealize it properly. How to elevate sexual availability to a state-religion, couple it with authority? How does one raise his children? The transition from television to parent. It seems that the conditions are being produced, as the “state” (corporate interest) uses them up until now to confuse, disperse all morality. It might indeed be a move of genius to place the idea where it belongs, on the throne of God.
How would this be done? The people must lead such a revolution. Ideals to be chosen, super-de-lux-status bestowed on the first representatives. One wonders who they would choose. The Brazilian models on the other thread apparently come across as A-list to the poorly informed mob.
In the meantime, what do the creative, immoral souls who before had this powerful force, “the Devil” as a catalyst, set their inner senses on? Since the roles are reversed, a news sort of God perhaps, but God is dead for good reason, so no. I think that creativity has to be oriented more towards the particularly perfect, the exception, the unreachable status of being beautiful and not working.
The masses enslaved by their natural enslaver, nature - the poets, etc drawn to their freedom by being compelled outward, away from the mean, into fresh territory of esthetic possibility.
There, I have made an idealism out of your idea. Now you can choose your ideals, find out if they are available to a new political party and make the next step to world domination.
Thanks, Pezer and Fixed Cross.
I think religion thrives and perpetuates itself on child abuse in the form of the indoctrination of children. In the Sexocracy religion itself would not be banned but indoctrination of children would be so religion would die out.