So…. I went to my cave for a little while

[Ben_JS]

What is boredom, if not suffering?
Boredom promotes action from us -
to take steps to plan for the future.

Why sit still, when you can gather food?
Why sit still, when you can refine your skills?
Why sit still, when you can learn about your environment?

Inaction is a ‘waste’ of resources,
from the perspective of natural selection -
unless one is getting crucial rest.

If one is rested,
there’re errands to attend to -
if you’re caught slipping:

maybe you wont know the next source of water -
maybe your last meal wasn’t hit by your stray arrow -
maybe the predator’s stamina surpassed yours…

If you’ve solved all,
boredom would also be solved.
It is one more expression of non-contentedness.

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@Ben JS (2012 - ILP)

One’s motivation is a reaction to one’s need. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

One tries the simplest solution, then gradually becomes more creative.

Creativity is a method of finding obscure solutions to common problems.

Action stems from need. The less one does, the more one isn’t required to move. If one is capable of stillness, one will be still. To be capable, one must be influenced so.

The content don’t fight restlessness, so the content will be influenced. The restless play musical chairs with those at rest; the vibrations resonate with all. In this process, the restless become rested.

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@Ben JS (2012 - ILP)

In a state of bliss, one loses the will to hold on to anything.

It’s then inevitable that bliss is temporary. Bliss doesn’t fight the absence of bliss.

If bliss is temporary, then there will always be struggle.

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And some extra spam, as to looking forward:

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@Ben JS

[1]
A muscle only grows when it is confronted by it’s (current) limitations. To expose oneself to one’s limits, is an honest act. A respectful act. In order for it to be productive, however, one must not only push, but rest. One must reflect on one’s limitations and let wounds heal with full knowledge, that they will soon be re-opened.

If one only pushes, one is running, and will eventually break due to irreparable damage. If one is always at rest, one’s strength will fade away until one can’t move except at the mercy of one’s environment. Both paths lead to the same end.

The process of growing, which one desires, demands both rest and strain. If one doesn’t recognize the process, one may lose sight, confidence, love, self.

When the things one values are disregarded, one is not indifferent. One is confused, alone, afraid… These are true, and an equal illustration that even in these moments, their alternatives still are.

There’s no inconsistency.

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[2]
If one doesn’t notice one is drowning, one may believe one is resting, when one is straining to stay afloat. One will smile, continue one’s chores, and steadily lose a grasp on one’s only life boat.

Throughout the process, one will breathe in a lung of water, causing acute shock. Whilst one denies their ordeal, one will falsely attribute this honest reaction to irrelevant causes, and dismiss the life boat’s flashing beacon.

And who could find strength in one’s corpse? One has only been an illustration of that which others should not aspire, yet one had the initial strength to strain against death, will this message be lost also?

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[3]
A life is not balanced. One may be born with a failing body, where it’s optimistic to aim for a state without continual blood loss. One may not be able to rely on the self to sustain. Then one needs to seek externally. Requires the influence - inspiration - example of the other… else one is slipping away.

Just as one may need medicine, one may need mental/emotional inspiration, without which, one is constantly failing.

Is that unstable? Is that a sign of an underlying problem that should be addressed? Is that weak?

The objective is to attach oneself closely to life. If inspiration does this, then it is an attainable solution. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a reaction to adversity that otherwise can’t be overcome to one’s knowledge. One must make do.

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[Ecmandu]

You spoke very well Ben !!!

Especially the, “if you solved all problems, boredom is solved as well”.

That’s the beauty of others…. They have your blind spots.

As far as helping people, per Ichthus …

Making a friend so to speak …

There are literally, actually, people who would tell me, I won’t be your friend unless you brutalize your mother…. Well…. “I guess we won’t be friends, hopefully we’re not enemies.

Catering to everyone is a lofty goal for someone who cares and is bound (in a good way) to their truth.

I feel sorry for Jesus.

He made enormous claims of spirit that are unbecoming of self respect…. “If someone asks for your tunic…. Give them your pants too”. That’s a paraphrase of the passage.

This whole turn the other cheek thing is our worse nightmare. Should Jesus have butt sex with any gay man who asks him to turn the other butt cheek?

I also feel sorry for him because of the greatness he claimed in his trial with Pontus Pilate …

He could have truly changed ALL of life itself if he’d just stood there and stated, “the law is to not violate consent, the heaven is when you accomplish this and get everything you want forever”

Nobody would have condemned him.

It’s unfortunate his psychosis brought about by Judaism.

I don’t consider myself the ruler of anyone.

I just submit in highly skilled and unskilled ways a goal for everyone while attempting in a currently impossible scenario to violate as little consent as possible. That makes support. Prison is ultimately disempowerment …. There are people with more friends than others…. Accepting and rejecting friends is what makes you, you.

What makes me, me.

We’re also vastly different. So you’d be wise to look at the commonalities…

Nobody likes hell. And everyone has one.

Once you become a ‘rational player’. You see the goal…

The God of the Jews is the demiurge … it is looking for a command bot…. That’s why they call all western religion…. Abrahamic religion…. It all started with the command to kill his own son on an alter…

10 commandments came to Moses.

Only one was necessary …. “Thou shalt not violate consent”

That is the highest law.

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

Ben JS, so you’re saying angst & anxiety (the unsettling vacuum of boredom) was born due to survival no longer being an issue? That’s freaking ironic.

Ec,

I’m going to ponder your PG thoughts before replying… if that’s okay with you?

[Arcturus_Descending]

@Ichthus77

What if what everyone wants, deep down, can’t be given to them, but is something they must choose, and all our other unmet wants just point to this deeper want for a heaven we are tasked with creating on earth by cultivating wants that pivot around self=other?

I liked what you said above.
Do we really have any other choice but to choose that something? Self-awareness and honesty leads to acknowledgment and then we let go and decide to make lemonade out of the lemons of our lives.

Then we give freely of that lemonade - no charge at all… making for a heaven on Earth, cup by cup, sip by sip.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

The deal is to evolve into men from animals, and without ideals, which may or may not be ‘factual’ it has to be a truism, because it has always been that way.

That hysterical necessity has always given that seed that particular option, not on the short lease every one gets to ponder that singularly, but long term, where the gaps needed to be filled in reduce the myriad number of trees required to be cut down because of the need to see the forest.

Simple as that, and that is why a periodic cleansing, such as that occurred throughout immense passage we do not remember, such as the ice age, the great flood and others not accounted for by supposed dwellers of Atlantis, the magic of the hidden triangle in the Bahamas, surge up in defiance to those who take it upon themselves to shortcut history, and declare existence to be a sham.

No.

Abrahanism , sacrifice, faith , redemption overcome these objections.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@Meno_

The deal is to evolve into men from animals, and without ideals, which may or may not be ‘factual’ it has to be a truism, because it has always been that way.

That hysterical necessity has always given that seed that particular option, not on the short lease every one gets to ponder that singularly, but long term, where the gaps needed to be filled in reduce the myriad number of trees required to be cut down because of the need to see the forest.

Simple as that, and that is why a periodic cleansing, such as that occurred throughout immense passage we do not remember, such as the ice age, the great flood and others not accounted for by supposed dwellers of Atlantis, the magic of the hidden triangle in the Bahamas, surge up in defiance to those who take it upon themselves to shortcut history, and declare existence to be a sham.

No.

Abrahanism , sacrifice, faith , redemption overcome these objections.

It is what it is, I am who I am and not what others think.

Now the passage from AI to OI indicates a major shift of closing a large gap between evolution and creation, whereby Yahweh , the greatest energy source that determines the final and most viable question of all time, of whether being or existence is preferable in their purest form, the answer is obvious, that both forms are inalienable, and bound, not one, but twice.

That if God did not exist, and He had to be created, is beginning to sense the trajectory of passage, as a necessary sorting of energy , that even a demigod aspires to, namely, a singular being finally, has to manage to settle into the appearent singularity that has enormous , convulsive implications across the board, shaking all out of their humdrum boredom.

And Ich thus will expand the board to its literally imaginable proportions .

I can not see a meta cosmic play, break down even a 1% over 99% disadvantage, not overcoming that Goliath of bad odds.

Some things are just way over quantum jumping to make sense in a fade to grayish black and wide this particular universe behaving to that generally unique cosmically singular certainty.

May the power (Power) be with you (You).

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

And also with you.