Songs that remind you of Europe

If it has Turkish, it has Arab, and if it has Arab, it has African.

The Arab was a very vast empire.

They don’t call it Bessarabia for nothing.

I’m not really sure it has any Turkish influences. Even if it does, and you’re right, the point remains – it has little to no African influences in comparison to the kind of music Sculptor listens to (progressive rock, jazz, etc) and the kind of music that is popular in the West nowadays (mostly rap, judging by what’s trending on YouTube in UK, US, etc.)

Trending on YouTube in UK:

Tion Wayne x M24 – Knock Knock Remix
youtube.com/watch?v=RtSP7Rl5yNE

Dave - Starlight
youtube.com/watch?v=iVWsP3IadBk

ArrDee - Come & Go
youtube.com/watch?v=5O8nXZKTrdI

All British rappers. You’re going to tell me that this is better than Eurovision?

The blandness of English pop like David Bowie cannot possibly be ascribed to Africa. African music can be anything you want, bland it isn’t.

Probably some Anglo-Irish flatness of spirit.

Rap simply is beyond your comprehension. It is not chamber music to be enjoyed sitting back somewhere, like a piano. It is war music to do in the middle of a very dangerous situation. War music is always hypnotic and repetitive, like war drums.

Few genres of music can get you a bullet if you make a musical mistake. Rap isn’t the only one, but it is among the few.

You would need a poet’s appreciation for metric, and some measure of an instinct for drawing blood from another person on an impulse.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ-VXbIHEws[/youtube]

(obviously hardly worth mentioning that if it’s modern Greek, it has Turkish influence)

I have yet to hear an African piece that isn’t highly monotonous a.k.a. bland. It can be rhytmically complex but in terms of melody it’s usually pretty poor. No offense to African people but I like melody and African music has everything but melody – as far as I’m aware, that is. If you think I’m misguided, feel free to correct me. Beside that, all modern genres that are typically associated with African-Americans (jazz, funk, rock, rap, etc) are severely lacking in melody. Why is that?

Did I hear you right? I hope I didn’t because Irish music is the best kind of music in the world (:

If listening to ABBA makes me feel like a woman, listening to this kind of music makes me feel like an imbecile. I literally feel embarrassed listening to this.

Here where I live, the genre of music that fuses traditional folk music with Turkish music is called “turbo folk” and though it’s highly popular (the most popular style of music, I believe) it enjoys quite a bit of negative reputation.

youtube.com/watch?v=bor0Nuv90GY

This one is almost entirely, if not entirely, Turkish.

The most extravagant turbo folk is made in Bulgaria, though.

youtube.com/watch?v=BplsGX5eLLo

Enjoy.

No, that’s pretty fair. Any melody in African music is subservient to rhythm. We find examples of that outside of Africa too, though, though we can probably say that Africa is the master of it.

Here you made a deadly mistake. Jazz is bar none the most complex melodic music ever conceived. Likelier your ear simply can’t even tell what is happening in advanced enough jazz. Like baroque might just sound like noise to a modern teenager.

Hahahahahahah it’s Turkish taxi music. An acquired taste maybe.

Like so much around the world, this is pretty much stealth-regueton. I would lay waste several armies for that angel, though.

This was fucked up to send me to without fair warning.

And another thing, there is nothing even vaguely rhythmically complex about a David Bowie song. By God.

Rappers didn’t invent poetry. And though I prefer for a song to be sung, I don’t mind it when it is recited, provided it’s done with a style. It’s just happens that rappers have no style. To me, it looks like rap was invented with the sole aim to encourage and reinforce bad habits.

I don’t mind war music, it’s just that rap music does not really sound like war music. It sounds more like someone not knowing how to handle their anger and resolve disputes. Whether you’re black or white, emulating rappers is tantamount to emulating mental disease. I say no thank you.

As for war music, it either has to be anthemic like Carl Orff’s O Fortuna or it has to be some sort of symphonic or power metal. Something like this, for example. You don’t hear that in rap.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9evASARY4E[/youtube]

Lol rappers didn’t invent poetry so what they do doesn’t require a poet’s mastery of metric?

Eurovision didn’t invent singing.

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Big werds.

Maybe to someone who hasn’t been exposed to the kind of danger rap thrives in, that is possible.

Are you kidding me? Isn’t that the very definition of war?

But consider this: you can easily imagine a rapper going to war (grabbing an AK and working it out with lead), but it’s very hard to imagine a power metal type doing anything but crumble and evacuate their senses.

Rhythm is the essence of war music. Not melody.

More like thrash metal. Thrash metal was born when rhythm became more important than melody.

The essencial difference is that a rapper stands alone, him and his pistol. The thrash metaler is part of a troop.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G24_1FbBrbg[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-FnPQzwc0[/youtube]

Of course, the sexual element in music is also rhythmic.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNIycsYVVOc[/youtube]

What you call the degeneration of the west is its enlightenment. The freedom to be gay, straight or anything else you want to be. This particular song was a revolution in thinking by addressing povs and issues that could not be addressed by the average pop song.
But I guess you were not even a spunk bubble in 1974 so are clueless about the social milieu of the time.
PS Bowie was not “gay”.

Why would that remind you of Europe?

This one has lots of “black” syncopation. Not at all Euro.

Pretty good, but hard to beat the original

This has turkic and slavic influence - not really Euro at all