Songs that remind you of Europe

Hey, I never said that. I merely said that African music can be rhytmically complex – and it often is. “Rebel Rebel” isn’t exactly African. It’s an instance of European music that has been ruined by various influences, among them, I’d say, African-American music. That song is literally just a single riff repeated tirelessly with Bowie singing over it in an annoying way. The chorus barely distinguishes itself from the rest of the song.

African music is no doubt more interesting than that – at least some of it. This is pretty fun in comparison:

youtube.com/watch?v=0O7_-_iA1cc#t=5m29s

The singing can be a bit distracting at times – it depends on the particular piece, I guess – but the drums are where all the fun lies. What I find interesting the most is that I find absolutely nothing weird about this kind of music. It sounds perfectly natural – unlike say Middle Eastern music that sounds quite creepy.

Let’s Dance is less melodic, less European, more African and . . . more interesting.

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Why are Eastern-European songs so self-deprecating/depressing?

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Moderné! What ya think Pedro?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Vhlm7L2Rc[/youtube]

Of course, complex rhythms aren’t a monopoly of Africa.

There are even heavier, more complex ones, but I can’t find them anymore. And probably with melodies that would be more familiar to your ear.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EzRm46Ehho[/youtube]

I think Ukraine, if you know where to look, has some pretty deep rhythms.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENSFSYqqfOk[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wucD8Ej_d8E[/youtube]

the fuck…

Do you know any songs in Turkish or Arabic where the language actually sounds pleasing to the ear?

Anyways…Persian FTW

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GorKNbiMPrc[/youtube]

“It would have been much more fortunate had the Persians become masters of the Greeks, rather than have the Romans of all people assume that role” -Nietzsche

Southeastern European music is divided into several camps, the two major camps being Western and Eastern camp. What I’ve been posting here falls into the Eastern camp, and even then, I’ve been posting only what I like or is otherwise interesting to me. That said, it’s not representative of the whole.

If you want cheerful music from the Eastern camp, here is some.

Zeljko Joksimovic - Sedam sedam godina
youtube.com/watch?v=2e_DErbn2xQ

Black Panthers - Kakvu Zenu Imam
youtube.com/watch?v=SVWxBcbcGlw

Black Panthers - Ja Baraba, A Ti Vila
youtube.com/watch?v=kh5WtfS0-uU

Black Panthers - Mi Amor
youtube.com/watch?v=AV0PzQnMO7A

Very interesting. That bridge at 0:39 is precious.

Osvajaci - Vino crveno
youtube.com/watch?v=j3bVfJ93AkU

If I recall correctly, this is a Serbian cover of a Greek song but I’m not able to find the original (scratch that, here it is.)

Aca Lukas - Istina je da te lazem
youtube.com/watch?v=W_87Ai7L-tA

Another Serbian cover. Original.

Amadeus Band - Kupi me
youtube.com/watch?v=KQgj-2769O8

This one doesn’t really fit the Eastern camp but it’s at least cheerful.

And there are many more . . . these are just a few.

Which one do you like the most?

How about this?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HD-Pmuo2A[/youtube]

A version sang by a Persian guy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yEPuC41PFs[/youtube]

Still, I like this kind of Turks better:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fSEWAqPvc4[/youtube]

Nice.

How about this?
youtube.com/watch?v=uKuEqBIRbFM

Ancient music seems to be remarkably good regardless of where it comes from.

An Ancient Greek piece:
youtube.com/watch?v=_iLPS1Q5cQ8

Very Japanese.

…not necessarily ‘cheerful’ is required, as a preference.

None really (that’s a lot of noise/too much going on/too much melody), but I do find the second-to-last song the most palatable.

…this.

Very ‘temple music’… Babylonian sounding… reminiscent of something out of a Conan film.

“…the compositional method revolves around the use of the Ancient Greek Dorian mode (equivalent to today’s Phrygian mode) with an abundance of skips within the mode, which produces a pentatonic-like effect commonly attested in surviving Ancient Greek music. As was the case with most Ancient Greek music, it is primarily monophonic with only slight hints of heterophony provided by the strings of the base note of the mode providing a rhythmic drone, which some reconstructions attest was used in Ancient Greek music of the Hellenistic and Roman eras.”

Was kinda shocked by how good this was.

Actually remarkable. Of course, more of a modern composition doing its best to stick to ancient Greek standards. But the similarity is astounding.

I liked the Black Panthers. I would buy a ticket to their show without hesitation, and would pay extra for scalped tickets.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKLQiWlXaRo[/youtube]

It feels like the piano spelled the death of the harp in Europe, but there are still places where variations of them survive, and are used to produce sounds which the popular imagination would not suspect.

However, they also sound very nice when they do:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xn3uAHZHcc[/youtube]

Few places retain a passion for excellence like Russia.

She’s working the pedals too, watch for the knobs holding the strings for when they move.

Most of the music in the Eastern camp is either very-to-extremely cheerful or it’s on the sad side (but never extremely.) Very few of it lies somewhere in between.

Perhaps we should look into the Western camp. The Western camp consists of music that is closer to Western music as well as whatever is popular in the West at that time.

Tara is trying to imitate Rihanna, so her music might be more pleasant to you.

Tara & Angellina - Gad
youtube.com/watch?v=Kb2Qkz43zC8

Tara - Vidi vidi
youtube.com/watch?v=1b0efxNiTU8

This one is a bit more intense. Note that it sounds sort of like that Turkic song that I posted.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ILWULTkm2c[/youtube]

Omg.

:laughing:

Can you post some Italian ballads that you find enjoyable? I don’t have a high opinion of post 20th century Italian music but that might be because I’m blind to the good stuff.

The Western camp of South Slavic music has a lot of Italian inspired music in it presumably because it spread from Venetian ruled Dalmatia. Croatians might be proud of their Western sounding folk music but all I feel is pity.

Here’s an example of Dalmatian music:

Ultima Partenca
youtube.com/watch?v=p3gqEBIWFsc

If it weren’t for that powerful chorus, this piece would be completely uninteresting to me. It’s pity because it’s gentle to the ears – there’s no harsh instrumentation, for example.

Here’s another one. This one might be more representative of the genre. It looks and sounds very cultured but it ultimately fails with respect to my taste.

Ostavljam vas moji najdrazi
youtube.com/watch?v=gxaztIyHDSc

And now, for a change, a modern Italian ballad.

Il Volo - Grande Amore
youtube.com/watch?v=w1f6o1HQBvg

Compare the above three to this predominantly Balkan song:

Legende - Ne pitaj
youtube.com/watch?v=Uer2kYtY9To

Infinitely more soulful.

Do we really need Italians to tell us how to make music?

I’m afraid it’s just snippets of memory, you will have to assume it is a lie. But the video I reposted was instantly familiar to me the first time you posted it. I tried at that time to find what it reminded me so much of, but it was never music I myself sought out so I didn’t know any names or specific references and couldn’t find it.

Maybe just to say that the Italian ballads you have posted belong in a lady’s chamber, the ones I remember belong in a tavern.

It may not even have been Italian, but South American and inspired and composed by or by sons of Italian immigrants.

I might give it another go some time.