Field in state A (this way) Quantum field (I don’t fucking know) Field B (now this way).
For the quantum field, nothingness is not, nor is anything else, proposed. Simply the difference between A and B are tracked, and the Quantum state assigned a statistical value that accurately tracks that change. You don’t guess what happened under the hood, you just predict what will happen given your variables, the things you are looking at.
It work precicely because it accepts really any thing you want for the intervening state, it could be Satan comes, scrambles existence, creates 50 new whole different existences, then creates state B in a way that just happens to track mathematically with state B. Quantum mechanics makes no claims on this.
So that’s why.
There is, to speak with Ec, no the quantum in the matterial stream. There is a quantum of in the eye of an observer.
Actually. What I said about the quantum world is that there is no encryption for it. We have to trust each other.
I’ll pull us out of the quantum world and give you an example. Two of my therapists are female. At any time they can report to the team that I lifted up their shirts against their will (even though I’d never do such a thing) and the executive director and get me kicked out of this program. I can say…. “Well I deal with demonic possessions and was being controlled to do it… (even though I wasn’t(
They could get away with it and I can get away with it.
Everyone on my team knows I work with voices and demonic possessions.
When the demons try to put uncontrollable lust in me…
Whatever lust it may be.
I have to talk to the person to get their spirit family to get rid of the demon.
Lust is not a bad thing…. Too much or too little won’t let you live here. There’s a zone for it.
So you can’t comprehend am infinitely divisible substance?
Exactly what do you think I am “subtracting”?
That’s not the spirit world. That’s your psyche. When you get some overwhelming impulse in the presence of a person, it is because you are not in command of your psyche which prevents you from having a contextualized view of the world, through which lust regulates itself, and you need the person present, who is in command of theirs, to contextualize for you.
Lust and these impulses exist in a world perception structure that requires clarity to be balanced, by balanced I mean honed onto reality. You need to be aware of the furniture of your mind and of your environs, including as you have been saying what matters, the priorities which are real to you. If you don’t look at that your impulses will appear as commanders. Uncontextualized.
Infinite divisibility is an ideal form, which you said doesn’t exist. Your words.
A more important question: can your ideal substance be split into different components or elements or in any way? Not simply divided by itself?
Infinitely divisible is not a form at all. It is a property - like being hard or soft - red or green - ubiquitous or discreet.
And no - there can be no components - nothing other than varied vectors and densities of itself. At least that is what the video says - and somewhere in the book. No other substance exists anywhere - merely varied formations of itself. It causes distance and dimensions to exist as well as time and velocity. Void of it - is absolute nothingness.
Ah, I see, you cannot deal with an equation being a form.
Therefore it is not divisible. There is a minimum quantity, the infinitessimal atom. This minimum is a wall, beyond which there is nothingness.
This is what an atom is. I am sorry if that makes you angry.
Newton called it a fluxion.
Descartes described it but didn’t give it a name.
Galileo was more economical and simply called it an infinitesimal.
Which is nothing but infinitely begging the question. Putting off answering it infinitely.
Science cannot be so lazy. Instead of posing the question infinitely, you go ahead and practically split. Once split, you look at the components. While you are sitting there imagining that it is just the same thing infinitely like the Hindu turtles, quantum physicists are finding all sorts of things, borne out by experiments. None of those things are this silly dynamic you imagine, this atomic (now in the modern nuclear sense) dynamic replicated at all scales and all facets. Well, replicated in your imagination, in your supposition, which is what an ideal form is.
An equality is NOT a form - a description of one even less so. Keep your words and concepts straight.
Nonsense. What makes you think so?
And an infinitesimal isn’t a minimum size. It is merely the range of indescribably small.
Anything to save your atom innit.
area divided by pi times squared radius equals zero.
Holy lord it’s magic.
You are describing a given quantity. X small is a given amount of small. That quantity would be minimum.
Wrong.
A 0.7853975 square meter circle divided by pi(r^2) is a radius of .5 meters and pi of 3.14159, because 3.14159 x (.5 x .5) = 0.7853975 square meters. So your statement is false, it does not equal zero.
Because you are proposing that the units themselves are the smallest-possible units, the foundational fundaments of existence, right? That nothing is smaller or in-between them. That is a necessary assumption if you want to talk about instantaneous jumping, because if there were something in-between units 1 and 2 then to move from unit 1 to unit 2 would require traversing that in-between space-time, which would mean that in fact the move from 1 to 2 was not actually instantaneous, just only very very fast to the point our measurement instruments detected it as “instant”. I assume this is because our measurement instruments are composed out of the same class and scale of substances that are attempting to be measured, hence the instruments have no way to dissect the in-between space from unit 1 to 2, they simply must register it as “instant”.
Basically the logic goes like this:
Option A: If there in fact (regardless of our measurement tools and what we can detect) is an instantaneous jump from unit 1 to unit 2 then it follows that nothing can exist in-between units 1 and 2, because if something did exist between unit 1 and unit 2 it would take up some amount of space and time or expenditure of energy to traverse, which would mean that the move from unit 1 to unit 2 was not actually instant but mediated somehow. This would be quantization assuming that the units 1 and 2 themselves cannot be further sub-divided within themselves (if they can then we aren’t even talking about quantization to begin with). This is why I said that nothingness must be the case between the units in question. There is nothing there, there can be nothing there if you are proposing quantization occurring at units 1 and 2.
Or, option B: There is something in-between units 1 and 2, however small, which is to say you agree with me that it is not the case that nothingness exists in-between units 1 and 2, which therefore would also mean that in fact units 1 and 2 are not the fundaments/most irreducible lower threshold scales of existence because there is something else occurring between them, something not captured by either unit 1 or unit 2 themselves. That “in-between space” being unaccounted for by the unit-ization mean that the units are not actually the fundament, there are existing layers and scales even smaller than them. This means that it cannot be the case that the move from unit 1 to unit 2 is instant, which is contrary to your premise of instantaneous jumping from 1 to 2.
I never said that, I have no problem talking about atoms or using that term. It was the other guy who seemed to call you out on that. I was just remarking on how it doesn’t matter what we call things, and it’s silly to get bogged down in semantics like that; let’s focus on what you brought up with reference to ancient Greek philosophy, and keep things focused on substance and reality and what actually exists, ontology, all that. We don’t need to get all stupidly Wittgensteiny/analytic/logical positivist over here.
I don’t want this thread to have too many offshoots.
Psyche translates as soul. Maybe we can just leave it there. If you want to talk about demonic possessions, I have others of my own threads where we can talk about it. I have to access with words from clairaudients people’s spirit families to remove the demonic possession. When you’ve been an open door policy for spirits, you always know when it’s not you…
A quantum foam so to speak.
That was a little vague.
I channel the living and the dead without having to go into a trance.
I can still be myself.
I’m often visited by people still alive here, including all of you.
When you bring what would call kings or lords here.
You did it because you needed me.
I’m looking at the situation and thinking…
Messing with the dead is really bad karma.
If I called all the dead back, you’d be wiped out in an instant.
Do you want to live or not?
Physics is spirit too by the way.
It’s simply an agreement between multiple spirits
I don’t want to derail this thread too much.
Numerical laws are spirit agreements. They are not absolute
So on that note…
I’ll play this …
Still waiting for why you believe that despite all of the evidence against it.
James was not as old as me.
Is it an infinitesimal that I exist?
All the beings in their eternal slumber are like me but in their own way.
I’m going to keep them from being resurrected….
They earned their sleep after an infinite number of eons.
I was called back. I’m not happy about it.
I’m trying to be kind to all of you.
I can control the whole galaxy down to minutae if I wanted to.
That’s always a dumb decision. It keeps you stuck here.
How old was he?