Stopped Clock Paradox - Analysis

Youare not going so far as to say that energy is action. You are saying at least that it is a measure of action, an accountability.

That measure exists. Action requires something. That thing we call energy.

I’m currently wiring a power inverter into my car, so I have had a crash refresher on it.

But a watt hour doesn’t have to be a watt operating for an hour. It means, rather, that the energy stored in that source can produce a watt for an hour. That energy from that source thus exists.

Not only independently of whether it is used, but actually disappears once used.

Or, at least, ceases to exist in the source.

Energy is material.

Meditate on this, gentlemen.

And by the way – even light slows down light.

Beams crossing each other very slightly interfere with each other - causing delays - just like a mass particle except much much less effect.

Motion of what? - of the ability to cause change - to do work - to affect - “energy”.

It most certain is. And what you described is also an ability - “work that was done”.

There is “potential energy” and “potential affectance” - sometimes called “voltage” (for electrics). But potential is not a substance - ability is - in fact the only substance of the entire universe -

I’ll let James’ short videos do the talking.

That mechanism was spelled out by James Maxwell - “the Maxwell equations”.

It is an accounting system. Just like man hours of labor. If you have 1 guy work for 8 hours that is 8 man hours. If you have 2 guys work for 4 hours that is 8 man hours. If you have 16 guys work for .5 hours that is 8 man hours.

Get it now? It’s the same thing with energy. 5,000 Watt-Hours could be 5 1,000 Watt toasters running for an hour, or a 10,000 Watt heater running for .5 hours. Or 5,000 1 Watt light bulbs running for 1 hour. It is an accounting system for how much work was done over a duration of time.

1 man works 3 hours + 1 man works for 10 hours + 3 men work for 2 hours. That is 19 man hours.

Ability is a potential. You have the ability to walk to the store. It doesn’t mean that you WALKED to the store, it just means that you COULD walk to the store if you wanted to.

Dreaming about walking to the store is not the same as walking to the store and then saying you walked to the store. One is a potential and the other is after the fact.

A gallon of gas sitting in a gas can has a potential to do work, or an ability to do work, but until you actually do that work with the gas you have done nothing. There is no measured work until after it is done. Energy is a measure of how much was done over a time period, not how much potential it has.

I couldn’t find the exact post…

So I’ll reply to everyone.

Someone stated that all is radiation.

That would destroy everything if even one atom was split. Physicists worried about this back then.

It never happened though.

Now we’re creating micro black holes and we’re still here.

Ah, yes, the unsplittable thing of which all else is made which we are not calling atom because that is a super obsolete Greek usage for dorks and old farts.

Energy is what work requires to be done. This is the only way the word energy has ever been used by anyone. The whole point of the concept is to account for motion or change in general, how and why it happens.

A gallon of oil has X amount of energy it can provide to the car for the car to work.

They’re trying to justify their silly idea that they found the atom. All is radiation and all radiation is made of their atom.

I agree, silly.

What radiates is electronic excitation. One electron in one atom exciting another electron in another atom.

I mean I don’t know, look that shit up. It’s in the name, electromagnetic radiation.

This relationship is the fastest possible one at the atomic level. Nothing can happen faster than an electron can affect another in that way. Over a given distance, this will take an amount of time accordant to the amount of atoms that take part in the radiation, the density.

Gravity, manifesting in atomic matter as energy, can, in the case of black holes, suck matter faster than electrons can do this. This concerned scientists very deeply, because it should not have been possible.

They are now well on the way to accounting for it. Using quantum magic.

By the way, it is the fastest thing that can happen at the atomic level because it is the transfer which takes place with the smallest amount of change, of energy and matter, possible at the atomic level.

If gravity, or anything else, moves matter that is in the path of light, light just travels through whatever atoms replace those that were there before. The energy with which it was traversing the previous atom was too fast to react to anything, like gravity. It will continue in the same direction.

The gravity of a black hole is so strong thta it actually does change that direction. It acts on the smallest possible transfer of energy and matter. So something even smaller must be at work. There isn’t, no such thing exists. Therefore, something different from atomic continuity, separate from the mass energy continuum through which light moves, must be operating on that light beam.

In the spirit world we call this the matter stream.

It’s only one aspect of the massive amount of existence to be explored.

It’s a fucking video game folks!

Wake up!

Do you think it matters to me here?

Yes. The word matter was in my last question.

But understand this….

The cosmos is WAY bigger than the matter stream.

Not unsplitable but infinitely splitable. No Greek form of atom at all - rather a continuum of noisy EMR scattering in all directions all the time - an “ocean of motion” (to quote James yet again). That is the substrate of all existence. Light is merely a tidal wave of that substance and mass particles are traffic jams of that substance. There is nothing else.

Agreed.

Nothing is able to do work until it is actually doing it. Until then - it is only a potential to do work once whatever is stopping it is removed. That ability is the acting/energy that forms all substance.

By the way, the answer to your question about what has outward motion in an atomic fission explosion, it is in the first place all the particles in that atom that doesn’t turn to energy along with all the other particles in the adjoining atoms from the chain reaction of splitting atoms and of particles simply being pushed by the rocketing particles.

This at the atomic level.

The blast wave, as it is known.

Listen James, or not James, whoever you are, you are subtracting a real pheomenon and ignoring things about it to universalize it into an atomic substance. Don’t play games with me with this infinitely splittable shit.

It is limiting. Everything you are stretching your atomic mask over becomes invisible to you. And, to dishonestly misrepresent what Ec meant, the atomic level is actually fucking puny.

Humanize was right, in the sense that whatever you atomize you then by definition surround with nothingness. That is what you are doing, proposing an ultimate wall of existence. But there is no such wall.

You look under the hood of subatomic dynamics, of things like black hole gravity, and you find sense. Sense that is not atomic, now referring to the modern nuclear use of atomic.

But hey. Some people find walls fun.

It is said that the Buda rose from in front of one enlightened.

Re HumaniZe, though, quantizing is not atomizing. There is no atom inherent to the quantic method. A quantum does not represent a wall of existence, only a wall of field of study, thus beyond which is not nothing but actually every possible thing else. This by the way does tend to make quanta quite sensitive.