Ten Questions For Classical Theists

Define spirit….show me.. Don’t just tell me.

You are describing states of mind…

Emotions = automated reactions to stimuli - a priori, naturally selected - making reactions more efficient.

This is spirit?

Then it is neither eternal nor immutable nor other than the body.

Naturally selected is an oxymoron unless nature is intelligent. And if nature is intelligent and can select, is anything really automatic without being programmed to be? What is the programming/simulation based on? The unprogrammed (free) programmer. We are based on that. So we, too, can select. We don’t HAVE TO run on automatic. That’s why we can align (choose healthy thoughts, values, behaviors) or diverge (get mentally, emotionally, behaviorally… fat).

Hi ocean pot, I’m sea kettle. Want a workout buddy?

How clueless you are….

Natural selection simply means, woman, that advantageous mutations are more likely to reproduce…..and disadvantageous mutations (unfit) are less likely.

Environment selects, buffoon…not a conscious agency.

A selector is entirely unnecessary……other than the conscious choices of the living.

Did nature select that I select my environment? Did I make that environment happen out of nothing? Is my environment a mind, or a co-creative work of art in/of a triune being?

Aren’t mutations normally deleterious? Why is there error correction in the genetic code (and epigenetic reprogramming/resetting back to tabula rasa) unless it is programmed by an intelligence?

If nature evolved up to function, without an intelligent influence, why is the breakdown of function called DEnaturing?

Just trying to sound as blonde as possible for the gentleman.

:rofl:

Environment, dear, is what we call existence……fluctuating and interactive.

You made nothing happen, dear….the environment, nature, made YOU happen….

There is no before or after existence, dear…..time has been defined. if you find it incomprehensible then you are the problem.

No co-creative, dear….Life has agency and its intentional actions within an indifferent environment, determines the outcome.

Mutations are foundational to evolution…dear….how fuckin’ clueless are you?

There are beneficial, neural and detrimental mutations dear.

Want me to explain to you how mutations arise through reproduction?

God damn it, you are where you ought to be.

“Denaturing?”

Only man can cotnradict nature, dear, by sheltering himself….but not for long.

Man’s interventions are never complete nor long-lived…..and they allow disadvantageous mutations to propagate…resulting in people like you.

Nature is self-correcting, dear…..and transexuality - like all sexual deviance - is how it is currently correcting what human meddling has wrought.

This is what we call the cycles of civilization.

That’s what gain of function research is about. And it has not been established without intelligence. YOU show me.

…what was that about you wearing pink underwear?

nm

don’t care

My god you are thick….

Life is intelligent, dear…life selects (chooses, wills) its actions…….life chooses and its choices are part of the environmental circusmtnaces that determine consequences.

Unfit/fit, advantageous/disadvantageous mutations, BUFFOON, only means increasing the PROBABILITY, not making it certain.

Willful actions are part of it….not in control of the process.

Environment, including all the willful actions made by all the living organisms in existence, participate, PARTICIPATE, in what is being determined.

No agency outside life, is required, buffoon.

“Naturally selected is an oxymoron unless nature is intelligent”

Summa telologicus non aprobandus.

‘Selected’ just means what works after the fact that it happened. It doesn’t mean there is a designer looking at some material and selecting what is to become of it in advance.

Biological entities that develop according to genetic code can never be originally by design. You can have some party manipulate genetic code at some intermediate stage later on but never originally. For millions of years, chemical codes had major problems copying, producing all manner of monstrous creatures biggs and smallz… and those organisms with favorable mutations reproduced more. This is what selection means; an accident that made a better organism.

And it’s still happening now. Some gene mutation may happen that makes skin cells more resistant to the sun’s rays… starting a line of humans that may survive and reproduce more in 2075 when it’s so hot outside, you can fry an egg on an ice cooler.

The binary processing biological machine bot.doesn’t possess life.

It operates automatically.

The I AM takes control and REALITY science (not mainstream cognitively biased atheistic science) confirms it.

Give up guys…you are wasting your time.

You want all three, or you have nada.

Sometimes willful actions have to take control if you don’t actually feel like doing something in the moment, but your mind tells you (wrongly or rightly) you will like it in the future, based on the fact that you liked it or something similar in the past. …or that there are reasons you should like it even if you don’t, and that it is an acquired taste. OR that there are reasons you should NOT like it even if you do—and so it is something you should stop doing and replace with something better.

Something that everyone involved likes, perhaps? Because we all like stuff. And it isn’t always necessarily different stuff.

Was that too blonde?

Yes, dear…willful actions attempt to change the probabilities in its favor, relative to a subjective goal - motive.

This is why free-will, properly defines is ESSENTIAL to natural selection.

But all wilful actions are competing with billions, if not more, willful actions, and, more importantly, with lifeless, will-less, unconscious energies, governed only by the path-of-least-resistance.

So, in natural selection life’s choices, its willful actions, PARTICIPATE in what is being determined by struggling to shift the probabilities in its favor, as it perceived them and relative to its subjective goals.

To put it in a way that a dumb blond might understand, life chooses (will) to streamline natural selection.

So, when a stupid blond chooses a mate, she is increasing the odds of advantageous mutations - as she judged them - to have a better chance of successfully replicating.

Therefore, whatever controls a woman’s judgments controls the fate of humanity.

In nature nothing controls but envirnmetnal circumstances.

Both the male and the female’s judgments are being selected, dear.

Wrong judgments do not affect the world….but they do affect the participants.

So I guess mere survival/reproduction is a really stupid reason, since things have to already be happening in order for survival to be the reason they keep happening (being fit for the environment after the fact).

Aren’t most observed/evident changes caused by mass extinctions & NOT genetic mutations?

Imagine what it would take to change/write DNA so that there is a NEW function. Intelligent PERSONS can only do what we can with the material available (reverse engineering). We can’t even read all of it yet—functions are spread across widely separated areas of the DNA (we’re not just dealing with error correction, we’re dealing with encryption). Most of our goofing around has caused epidemics, if not pandemics, of viral infections and cancer— using the body parts of aborted babies. We’re like toddlers riding the bulls everyone is running away from into the china shop right before the nuclear bomb hits it, causing the mass extinction and mutations that will help us “prove” (with a statistically “significant” level of probability) our science (after we get done tweaking the data’s narrative and controlling for all the outliers, of course).

Yawn!!!……………….Yawn!!!………………..Yawn!!!

If we’re directing our natural, biological (life) goals, that is supernatural selection.

The will of the dumb blonde who just flows with her natural urges isn’t selecting anything.

If nature is merely urge (mutation without order/intention), how in the hell is a free will (directed intention) advantageous to a free (undirected, unintended) flow of those urges?

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“Was that too blonde?”

Hate to interrupt, but today has been a good day for tossing midgets. I had to say something because I’m in like Freud on that slip.

Suppose… just for a second… that there is an executive function x in the cat lady’s psyche that serves to execute function y: be passive-aggressive toward male atheists because of enduring emotional stress and the personality complex resulting.

Then, underneath that function x is a variety of lower functions like function m - using a forum to debate, discuss, etc. Now, whenever a function m is executed, it is, in fact, in the service of executive function x though it appears to be independent and purposed for something substantial like learning, sharing, gaining knowledge, etc. The whole time, all you have is a defensive neurotic cat lady constantly checking to see if someone thinks she’s an idiot underneath and in the background of every exchange. The whole charade is only to “I’ll show them”. And the further and more confused she gets because of philosophy, the angrier she gets because she’s wrong and the male atheists are right. It’s a giant cluster fuck that dominates her entire life and we must witness it here everyday.

'Member when N said women are incapable of disinterested objective thinking? He especially means the scorned woman… and a woman not scorned is very rare. They do exist, though. They’re like greek Athenas.

You think the participants and the world are mutually exclusive?

You’re bullshitting me. You’ve been bullshitting me this entire time. Knock it off.

Are you talking to yourself right now? You’ve heard yourself talk to your mom, right?

hiiiiiiiiiii you doing that thing

Oh, so that’s what you’re doing? How’s that working out for you?

I bet you go to the gym to appreciate all the women you think are “showing you”.

That’s why I don’t go to the gym, internal fatty.