Just give me a simple definition.
Is he a God? An overman? A concept? A superior?
That does not give what?
You always let everyone know what it isn’t but you haven’t got the foggiest what it is. Nietzsche meant something by it. So why don’t you in your vast reading of Deutsch give us your “approximation”. Don’t just say “Uber” is over. By now every ignoramus including me knows that.
…the fact that I agree with you on this (though not completely) already gives me an inferiority complex.
philosophy may be bull but its effect on history definitely was not.
He is his own god, he is the only way man can avoid certain stagnation and nihilism. He is superior, to Nietzsche, because he creates his own value from the void, he takes nothing and creates something, he is the Overman.
He re-evaluates all values. To Nietzsche the Ubermensch is the ultimate affirmation of life.
How about reading the term “Ãœbermensch” as Meta-human. That which comes after human.
There is no litteral english translation for “Ubermensch” the best that we come up with is Overman, but the word doesn’t matter as long as you know the concepts behind it, and what it means.
Whitelotus,
Why dont you just answer The Source’s question. It dont matter much if you get it wrong and your laughed at. How else are you meant to learn? I dont think I ve met anyone who knows it all anyway. Plus it doesnt make sense questioning things in the first place if your always so busy explaining what something is.
BTW! I no clue about this superhuman stuff. Just reading the posts here is quite fascinating. Houh! I have some catching up to do.
…and I say since you haven’t mastered the art of thinking, you aren’t ready for philosophy - that means ALL of it!
Besides you express yourself badly for someone who is presumably educated. But there are enough of those around who can do a reasonable imitation! Go for it!
…also sprach the forum idiot!
When are the guys in the white coats going to take away your computer!
You must know very little about the philosophy of Nietzsche.
‘Das gibt es nicht’ means something like you can’t give one definition of the ‘ubermensch’ (‘overman’ as I rather call it). There is an ongoing topic ‘What must be true for us to be Human?’, and this is related to this topic, because the proposition here is ‘the ubermensch is no longer human’.
Humans ask questions, and favors clear answers. Overman says 'fuck it, I take it as it is, and live my own life, rather then going after the answers given.
My question to Whitey is do you need to read Nietschze to understand the concept of the overman? I didn’t, but the stuff I read about his philosophy relates to my ideas to get rid of the earthy problems I encounter. For example I want be to liked, I want to do the right thing. I think overman isn’t worrying about this, and so is Whitelotus. Aint you, W.?
Okay… so Whitelotus still hasn’t answered my question.
What answer?
The Overman laughs and dances all day long
If you understand virtually nothing of what is posted in this forum how can you possibly understand anything in philosophy?? You make no contributions to interpretation. Your favorite reply is that “your not ready to understand”. Obviously I haven’t read all your posts, but never once have I noticed you agreeing with anyone if only conditionally!
By your responses, you make yourself out to be some kind of Ubermensch of insight and information and so you are but of the ludricrous only. I have no doubt that if I repeated a post which YOU wrote and forgot about, you’d tell me how wrong I was and what an idiot I am. Only, in this case, I’d agree with you - unconditionally. I’m not like you you know!
Frankly, I don’t give a damn and “ITS NOT MY PROBLEM”. This subject is CLOSED!!
Exactly! This affirmation of life is one of the primary Nietzschean themes (i.e. found in: Eternal recurrence, amor fati, and to a lesser extent: innocence of becoming) and yet continually gets missed. A good place to start reading about the overman is Zarathustra’s prologue, in TSZ parts 3&4.
“…The noble soul has reverance for itself.”
“Man is something that must be overcome.”
The ubermensch is an ideal that we should strive for; it’s an ideal of becoming, of overcoming. To actually have overcome everything would be undesirable for Nietzsche. As one who has overcome all obsticles (an impossibility) there is no more becoming, there is only being. This would be problematic as Nietzsche’s overall message in his philosophical works is about becoming, and NOT being.