The Arcane Sciences - Crucible of Ideas

Ideas are “things”, Objects. They are (Meta)-Physical. You can grab an idea. You can hold it in your hands. It is tangible although invisible. It is Energy. It is Force. You can never Not-Feel it, even or especially when “You” are dead. Because where did “You” go? Did your Matter or Mass de-materialize? Did your body vanish out of thin air? Or, didn’t you mean that your Consciousness simply stopped? Most humans, today, refer to them-“selves” through their conscious experience only. So, you probably believe, that when “You” go to sleep at night, “You” stop Existing entirely… (Solipsism)

There is “Nothing” that is Not Energy. Nothingness, in fact, refers to Human Ignorance, and the communal ignorance of (post)modern men, and women …and “transpeople” too I guess. Nothingness is a combination-error, of Epistemology and Teleology. Humanity defines much of its ‘Self’ and its Knowledge, by Beginnings and Endings. The Universe began, supposedly. The Universe will end, supposedly. Whether you are a Secular-Leftist or Religious-Rightist, both sides believe in a Finite Universe.

Neither side truly believes in an Infinite Universe. Why is that…? I hope to get in that, depending on where this topic and conversation leads.

The first matter at hand, though, is the difference between Language and Ideas / Thoughts. This difference confuses even the intelligent among Humanity. Many academics, professors, philosophers, and the like, believe that ideas and language are entwined and tangled–and cannot be separated. I beg to differ. My postulation is simple: Language is Derived from Ideas, not vice-versa. The Intention of Ideas, is what ‘Creates’ language to begin with.

Consider a dog barking. Does anybody need to understand “dog language”, in order to have a reaction to it? Do animals need to know each-other specie’s “languages”? Or, isn’t it simpler, that “language” and communication are verbally immediate. A loud noise is enough to convey a message. The roar of a lion is ferocious because it conveys a threat to all lesser animals–the matter of Apex Predators. Thus, Mammals, and all other species, have it engrained through DNA, fear-responses to certain noises, and not others. If you do not fear that which will kill and consume you, then you would not survive, evolve, and adapt to the next generation.

In this, the ‘Physicality’ of all possible Languages are beyond one specie. This is important, because all Human languages must cede to physical principles. Human language, although much more complex than the other Mammalian species on Earth, is not so different, and definitely not a step-away from the most basic principles. Language is meant to ‘Do’ certain things. Language is meant to convey Animalistic intentions.

The premise of Abrahamic ideologies in Western Civilization is that Language (aka. Semitism) is what separates Man from Animal, and lifts him to ‘Human’ status. Thus, this work is very much an Antithesis of that premise. My claim and argument, contrary to Abrahamism and the Semitic religions, is that there is fundamentally no difference or separation of Man from Animal through Language.

Because there is not a single idea which can be conveyed, which demonstrates nor proves your Humanity.

…Because only an Action can possibly demonstrate any such “Humanity”. And this “Action” was, at least first attempted, through Christ and the Christian variant of Abrahamism. Christ was the “first attempt” to evolve Man into Human, from Animal. The Semitic traditions since then, have used and abused, leveraged ‘Language’ as the means to Divinity. Yet they have produced little or no Actions since their beginnings, to legitimize or justify their spoken or written intentions. Thus, the masses of the world, need more than just words.

They do need, and are entitled to, the Actions of such “Divinity”.

When there’s nothing to say, one is forced to say a lot.
You have my permission to quote me.
Learn simplicity — and you might just be understood.

I appreciate your advice; but the topic here is very complex.

I want to make a disposition on how ‘Ideas’ exist and act, physically, and not necessarily as “mind-dependent” phenomenon. A man dreams of a House. It does not exist in physical reality. But then he plans for and builds it. Then it is in physical reality. The difference, then, is purely a matter of Time, from the origin of the idea, to its Realization (or not, compared to all the ideas in existence which die-out).

Yet humanity believes ideas “aren’t real”. Why not? Why is the intention not physical, but its end-result, is?

Is it magic or something? Care to offer your own opinion?

How dare you?

Just.

How even dare you?

People are tools for understanding the Universe, for understanding itself. Hence, everything that people think and how they think. But ideas are an expressed (usually by words, although it can also be a gesture, or even a slap on the head) call to action. You confuse ideas with thoughts or dreams. Dreaming about a House is one thing. But building it—that’s something else. Construction is the embodiment of an idea, in the case when the idea is expressed. Like a construction plan, for example. Or the image of the construction.

Do you want to ask why some thoughts materialize, and others do not? The answer is simple and universal: everything is by the will of God. Despite the fact that God is the very reality, or rather existence as a whole. The Universe chooses what thoughts of a person to materialize and what not. You can dream about a house as much as you want, but if the Universe (God) doesn’t allow it, you will not build the house. At the same time, it’s easy to think about a house, and here, for example, comes an inheritance from a long-forgotten relative.

Sometimes I surprise even myself… :open_mouth:

Thoughts and dreams are also derivatives of Ideas.

This is a common belief-system / faith / metaphysics… that humans or intelligent beings are ‘conduits’ for “The Divine” (aka. Universe or God) to “speak through”.

…but, How exactly?

A being who has no control over (has given it away to their unbridled passions) their own tongue should be able to discern how another being can easily take the reins. They experience it literally all day, every day.

Some … who bridle their tongue… choose when to give up the reins.

P.s. When Jesus asks “What is your name?” he is doing functional analysis before it was cool. He’s not playing stupid. Tense intended.

..and then the Universe gets rich and tries to take over the world, I suppose.. :smirking_face:

Thoughts can be a response to ideas, but not every thought is an idea. An idea is an expressed call to action. Accordingly, the call should at least be present. For example, here’s an idea: “Think.” And the result, naturally, will be thoughts. If you express a form of reasoned disagreement, we get a different idea — that is, a call to understand your point of view. If you object just for the sake of objecting — that’s not an idea. And the evaluation will be appropriate — mockery.

People are tools, not “channels”. As for the “common” belief, I couldn’t care less. Do you need me to explain how a hammer drives nails? No, it’s simple. A hammer drives nails as a tool. A hammer is not a channel, but a tool. If it’s necessary to tap people on the fingers to make them understand — a hammer can be used (joke).

A character, invented based on sexual depravity, “asks”? Well, yes, that’s not stupidity, but perversion.

Jesus is a historically verified, actual person.

Methinks the perversion is yours, sir. Or ma’am.

The personality is not historically verified anywhere. But if you look into how he was actually conceived, you’ll find confirmation in forensic medicine handbooks. In psychiatric handbooks, you’ll find cases where poor individuals believe they are multiple personalities. It’s called dissociative identity disorder. It usually occurs as a result of childhood trauma. If you overlay this with the fact that he never married but preached “love” between men, you might come to the conclusion about what kind of trauma was the cause. Have you even read the Bible?

You should not be allowed to participate in a philosophy forum. I am putting you on permanent ignore.

Faith cannot tolerate anything rational, and therefore cannot tolerate knowledge. Hence the “ignore.” So, you’re unable to read what’s been offered? Neither the Bible nor medical handbooks that explain the Bible? It’s funny.

You ever get a medical description of a crucifixion? That is the last thing I have to say to you.

Self-Consciousness is very rare in humanity. Few humans “Know Thyself”.

Is this the good ending, or the bad ending…?? :thinking: