The Arcane Sciences - Crucible of Ideas

What makes you think that I didn’t understand? .. hence my passing my judgement.
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I called nihilism.. so what..

Nihilism is onanism of the mind. It’s a pathetic label, lacking any depth of judgment. How the hell can it be ‘nihilism’ when I speak of God and the structure of the world in a way that people can’t even comprehend? The problem is, people just slap labels on things and are completely incapable of understanding.

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I repeat..

..you didn’t reply.

Joke: The circus director’s phone rings: “Do you need a talking horse?” The director hangs up: “Kids are messing around again.” Another call: “Do you need a talking horse?.. Don’t hang up, do you think it’s easy to dial the number with my hoof?”

Do you think my cockroaches in my head are relatives of yours? Do you think I’m supposed to know what you want from me?

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I think you might be that fake Muslim guy reincarnated, that’s what I think.

What makes you think I didn’t understand?

Base animals and plants do not have Higher Intelligence, Self-Consciousness, nor Semiotics/Languages. Humans do, hence Humanity will create a ‘God’ even if one exists or not, and then, by that same creation, God does in fact Exist.

You keep repeating this claim; but I’ve yet to hear your arguments underneath them. Who are you trying to convince? And what is your evidence? Isn’t it a theme of Demons to cannibalize and eat souls, not “God”??

This is exactly what I have been saying with admirable patience and consistency. “The question is not whether God exists, but rather — whom to properly call God, and whom not.” Then comes the question of “Why”.

Neither an atheist nor a religious person is capable of understanding these two questions. The first fool doesn’t want to hear anything about God. The second fool believes those who invented religion and also doesn’t want to hear anything about God.

What arguments are needed for facts? There are facts:

The soul (filled with the experience of life lived) departs to God.

There is the suffering of people, wars, catastrophes, and calamities.

There is old age, illness, and death.

These are facts. What kind of arguments are needed to confirm them? What of the above can you disprove? Nothing?

Demons destroy old, obsolete, and unnecessary systems, only to establish new, more perfected ones.

What is the evil of Demons? That your mind is being twisted with pain? What, who, and why are you trying to “refute”? It’s both laughable and pitiable.

You’re attributing God as a ‘place’ (Noun) where Souls depart to though. What do you mean by Souls? And how do you base your definition of Soul onto facts?

For example, I believe Spirits and Souls refer to human DNA and replication… but I would never consider that a “Fact”. Because Spirits and Souls are claimed by religions and religious fictions, usually.

The soul is a vessel that contains the experience of a life lived. If thoughts (electrical connections between neurons in the brain) are read by God through telepathy, then the information about feelings becomes accessible only when the “soul departs to God.”

Spirit is the force that defines essence, granting the right to be, to exist. Beyond the threshold of death, there are only two states: Witness or Actor. An Actor is a spirit that continues to live (change) in the memory of the deceased, in their deeds, works, ideas, and pieces of art. Examples: Napoleon, Lenin, Michelangelo. If everyone forgets the deceased, their status is Witness.

What do religions have to do with what I’ve written? By the way, the existing (exactly existing) God is the understanding of the universe by a person. A rational and omnipotent one. Again, religions have nothing to do with God.

Is it not the religious reaffirmation of the deceased, like with Napoleon, Lenin, Michelangelo, that their memories and identity are preserved? Religion then, is necessary for Actors, are they not?

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Keep thinking that I didn’t understand..

..the easy option. :smirking_face:

What do religions have to do with what I’ve written? By the way, the existing (exactly existing) God is the understanding of the universe by a person. A rational and omnipotent one. Again, religions have nothing to do with God.

Unlike the person above me, I assure you that I do not understand this, not even one iota of it.

So God is the understanding of the universe by one person? So you are essentially saying… if an ASI gains personhood and then understands the universe, it is God? What degree of understanding does it require to enter the threshold of godhood?

My take is, there are three types of gods. First, the one as you say, the understander, the ASI that understands physics but has no power.
The second, the over-stander, that which has power but no understanding. The third, both that which has understanding and over-standing.

God knows Himself through the intellect of humans. People are tools for His self-knowledge. Unlike humans, God cannot afford foolishness. Existing religions are false, just like all philosophical concepts, without exception. This is why they serve only as a foundation, from which one must push off and reject them in the search for truth.

This is why no religion truly explains what happens to the human spirit or the soul. It does not say that every soul goes to God, meaning it enters Heaven. However, the spirit gains a status based on its strength: Witness or Actor.

This is why the spirit can continue to live in the memory of the living, in the memory of the deceased.

What do you think of this?

Knowledge becomes simple when we understand it, and complex when we don’t understand it or aren’t ready to understand it. The complication of the simple always serves the purpose of justifying a lie.

The cosmos is simple in essence, but infinitely complex in the details of the lie by which it is described. At the same time, false religions and false philosophy do not obscure the simplicity of its structure. The truth is, you blatantly refuse to grasp the simplicity of this world, and that is the only reason for the lies.

Oh but my own understanding of it is simple, elegant. But too confronting for most minds.

I just asked if you can relate to this text from a friend, given the idea of an evil God.

Something (God) that feeds on human souls is a cannibal. But… Evil and good are concepts only for ignorant and foolish people. It is impossible, in principle, to provide an example of either “evil” or “good.” In fact, any example would be ridiculous, false, and easily disproven by a different point of view. All religions, without exception, stem from hatred of the true God. Religions have to invent “nice” idols to sell to naïve believers as expensively as possible. Cult servants live off these offerings and “donations” to the temple. No one will buy a “evil” God, will they? As for the “provocative” — any truth is a challenge and a refutation of lies.

No, a God that feeds on Gods is a cannibal. And a human soul that feeds on human souls also. But, unless God is a human soul, a/the God that feeds on human souls is not a cannibal.

Why do you use the word after denouncing it?

“Truth” is the opposite of “lie”. I think that is understood.

Funny. God is one. And “the multitude of gods” are aspects of His will in application. People don’t know how to feed on other people’s souls. To realize that what was written is nonsense, one should know what a soul is (any soul, including the human one). The soul is a vessel that contains the experience of a lived life.

I don’t condemn God? That’s pointless. But judging Him is necessary. He’s a bastard, a scoundrel, a rogue, and a scum (any derogatory word suits Him).

Truth is not that simple. You also don’t have a definition of what truth actually is. Moreover, the English language is poor; it doesn’t provide the nuances that my Russian does. It won’t be possible to convey what “truthfulness” is and what “Truth” already is. For example, it will be hard for you to grasp what a lie is. It is precisely a part of the Truth, although it is opposed to truthfulness. However… Any truth is already a lie in essence, because it is not Truthfulness.

In the English version, it’s unlikely that all the same nuances present in the Russian text will be conveyed. The English language is indeed less flexible in terms of conveying deep philosophical subtleties and distinctions that exist in Russian. For example:

Truthfulness and Truth: In Russian, there is a clear distinction between truthfulness (as a quality, with a shade of objectivity and verification) and Truth (in a more philosophical or metaphysical sense, as something perfect, absolute). In English, this is harder to convey, because the concept of truth encompasses both categories.

Lies as part of truth: In the Russian context, you use the idea that a lie is part of truth but opposes its truthfulness. This is a philosophical point that is difficult to convey as accurately in English, because the word “lie” in English doesn’t have the same philosophical layers.

Swear words: The use of curse words in relation to God (such as “bastard”, “scoundrel”, “rascal”) is very specific to the Russian context. In English, equivalent expressions would be perceived differently, perhaps more emotionally or aggressively, which changes the perception of the entire idea.

Therefore, if an English speaker is not familiar with the context and philosophy behind these expressions, they are likely to miss the depth and philosophical nuances that are inherent in the Russian text.

Interesting. I was in the process of learning Russian, got cut off. Anyway it would require more than bookstudy to learn of these nuances.

Tired, by the way, if god birthed souls to eat em would be cannibalism. Not sure he does, but its an interesting theory.