Bodybuilding and politics are seperate issues.
Life is life, existence is existence, there are no ‘seperate issues’. All is context/relational to all, One.
Personal bodybuilding is ‘muscular politics’, and have you never heard of the ‘body’ politic?
How one lives one’s life from day to day is the issue, as isn’t this is part of the “Philosophy of Bodybuilding”?
… ignore list, bye…
Yeah and I guess typing on here is feeding hungry children…type, type.
I guess whatever your profession is has changed the world…type, type.
Every pursuit in life, if pursued with excellence has its place. The man who runs a restaurant or retail store with excellence makes his contribution. It is part of the wealth and fabric of his community, his city, his country…the world.
By working your best inside of your personal talents to improve the life of even one person…they may in turn touch the world in some non-connected way. I would think that anyone interested in serious philosophy would have learned to be less judgmental of people they disagree with…type, type, type.
Ahh, the impotent ad hom attack. What i do has no bearing whatsoever on the topic at hand.
Your ignorance of what and who i might be lends the air of desperation to your ‘responses’ which do not qualify as answers to my points. For all you know, i might be mother fukkin Theresa!
“It’s place” where? How relevent? I point out the selfish nature and vanity of a specific ‘pursuit’, and you respond that “it has it’s place”. Yeah, so? A non-answer, to be sure.
Yes he improves/sustains the quality of the lives of all concerned, himself AND others.
Unlike the vanity in the mirror at the gym.
You do not advance your attempted refutation by whining about ‘judgement of people’ when your personal pet cow is being revealed under the bright revealing light of observation and critical thought. I am judging no one, I am making a valid observation. Perhaps you are projecting. I don’t find selfish prideful vanity ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’, but I do call a spade a spade!
“By working your best[b] inside of your personal talents” at bodybuilding requires that your whole life, almost every waking moment, be devoted to that goal. Blind superficial vanity, as far as I can see it, is not an upliftment of mankind or the earth, just vanity…
I am no bodybuilder and Arnold is not a pet cow. I would make the argument for ANY of the highest achievers of ANY profession.
You seem like you were an angry kid who got one too many wedgies and grew up to be an angry adult. Ever notice it is always fat ugly women who complain about images of attractive women? I get the same vibe from you.
Conversation over.
You have yet to make a coherent argument. I suppose that you cannot.
Back to the ad-hom. Perhaps you might want to read up on cognitive fallacies and philosophical discourse, learn critical thinking…
Yes dear.
Happy trails
You are railing against the current California budget. Arnold’s history as a bodybuilder has almost nothing to do with the budget. That’s simply an aspect of the man. And no I’m not defending him.
And if you are going to disparage ‘weight training’ as a useless act, incapable of feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless, why stop there?
Painting is not a selfless act, doesn’t feed the hungry and offers no shelter.
Music is not a selfless act, doesn’t feed the hungry and offers no shelter.
Basketball is not a selfless act, doesn’t feed the hungry and offers no shelter.
Why do these things then, right?
I don’t see anything wrong with training for aesthetic reasons - that’s the beauty of personal choice after-all…
A good conversation stopper is when someone asks you if you’re training for a triathlon or something, and you say that it’s purely for aesthetic reasons… and the conversation ends! :-"
I’m sure a few billion $$$s/£££s could be saved every year in healthcare costs, from people taking some form of muscle-building exercise - years ago, hospitals started prescribing OAPs weight-training (minus the roids) instead of walking frames and colostomy bags, and guess what, within a couple of months those OAPs didn’t need their walking frames and colostomy bags.
I am involoved in physical training because health is divided into physical, intellectual, emotional and spiritual categories.
Missing one or more of these categories is not a good idea.
The fitness and discipline that comes with training is transferable to other areas of my life.
If I am fit and healthy I am better able to advance intellectually, emotionally and spiritually.
Physical training better equips me to help other people.
Do you compete at all A+O, or do you train purely to look/feel good? of which doing so is not a bad thing, as some here have tried to portray…
Why do you say that Magsj? Isn’t that sort of a very broad statement? 
Wouldn’t that more or less depend on the individual himself - or herself - as far as the mind/body connection? Are you just speaking of physical strength here?
And if so, wouldn’t endurance and stamina and overall will be a stronger mind/body connection?
Incidentally, someone needs to help this guy out. He looks a bit lost. He is finished body building for the day and he has absolutely no idea of what to do with the rest of his day. 
Actually, the avatar is a statement of being blinded by being so heavily focused on what we can see, and disregarding most other senses that we have.
I was wondering what that avatar was all about, Stumps. And i’m with you on that. To follow along that line, much of the time when we “see” we aren’t even really aware of the full force of what we see - of what is actually there.
Perhaps to actually use all of the senses at the same time, to fully use them without really trying, what we have to do is to de-focus (if that’s a word) and to just look, pay attention, listen, be beyond it all so we can we within it all.
I see no art nor philosophy behind steroids.
I see no art nor philosophy behind a paint brush. Like steroids, the paintbrush is merely a tool.
The topic is “The Art and Philosophy of Bodybuilding” not “The Art and Philosophy of Steroids”
I see no art nor philosophy behind a barbell…it is a tool…the artist uses it to perfect his canvas.
Andrej
I don’t use steriods nor condone the use of them, however effective steriod usage is clearly an art.
People who see a professional bodybuilder and say ‘steriods’ are retards.
Drug administration is built on theory and is so by nature philosophical.
Ignore list.
No, not really!
It’s the nature of the sport/the act itself… scientifically proven, and all that - I would say the longer a person has been pushing weights the stronger the mind/body connection, so yes, it does boil down to individuals in that sense.
Please see my previous comment above ^^^
Not the worst dilemma a person could be in… 
What’s the art? To look like Arnold Schwarzenegger? That’s creative…
Sometimes it’s the art of charlatanism. Sometimes its the art of sculpting a physique that looks like a Michelangelo and posing in a way that’s more akin to ballet. Most will find it ugly. Western. Violent. Anabolic. Fake. But like anything, a further look reveals beauty, commitment, and yes, philosophy.
I’m curious about philosophy and bodybuilding. Would anyone like to rekindle this conversation?
As for myself, i would definitely go with Michaelangelo’s “David”. That is beautiful.
I can almost understand what you mean by the “pose” being akin to ballet (not speaking of David) but at the same time, i think there is a point at which in bodybuilding, as perhaps as in many other things, at least insofar as commitment goes, one can take it too far and it becomes an addiction/obsession.
The art of sculpting one’s own body, philosophyically-wise, can be seen as a commitment to construction and structure. Maintaining muscle mass is akin to maintaining the muscle mass in one’s brain (poorly stated 
) Building up the body gives way to energy and discipline. But still…
Mighty Joe Young to me is only appealing as Mighty Joe Young I wonder how many truly and really intelligent human beings would want to build up their bodies to that extent. And yes, I do realize that this is a very biased statement. Still, I would be interested to know how many truly brainy men or women would build up their bodies to such an extent.
At the same time, I can also see the connection between the competitiveness of a bodybuilder and his art towards others, and that of a philosopher with others.