The biggest sin in existence.

Of course, it is an absurdity to talk about this life or that life. There is only life.

You’re not a slave to the game built with a false definition of god. Refuse to play it.

Play this: Get to know the real God.

Stop worrying about winning/losing. Just love. That is true life.

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Stop worrying about winning/losing. Just love. That is true life.
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That takes a lifetime of learning for many.

Give me an example of how one JUST loves.

Whenever you treat the other as self because all others are selves & vice versa—without weighing the pros/cons—you’re just loving them. The pros/cons will call out to you from everywhere, and the rush you get from ignoring them because you’re not a slave… yeah. It’s like an extreme sport. Other times you’ll feel nothing & do it just because, but it all builds toward good stuff you’ll appreciate later. That’s how it goes sometimes. Nobody gets it right all the time. Be generous with mercy.

Is it possible for god to be defeated so that everybody gets what they want forever at nobodies expense forever?

No. There is no goodness, truth, and beauty apart from him. Augustine said it best, I feel: “Our heart is restless until it finds its rest in you.”

You may not have any choice in the matter, Ecmandu. How do you plan to do otherwise, not come back, IF there is no choice? :chores-chopwood:

replication

How can You be so sure, Ec?

Define what YOU mean by defeated?