Clearly you fall into the category of an atheist Max…you are a self confessed psychotic who exists and doesn’t possess life …so why should anyone listen to an individual who has clearly got mental health challenges?
Your total humiliation will continue Max….I did warn you.
Keep your +=-/+=- BS philosophy.
+/-=+/- is reality philosophy.
Atheists just can’t drop their +=- and -=+ starting philosophy because that would take them down the +=+ and -=- starting philosophy route and no self respecting atheists is ever going to explore the possibility of good=good and bad=bad now are they.
What atheists don’t realise is +=+ and -=- philosophy is just as bad as +=- and -=+ philosophy.
Neither philosophy reflects actual reality because the 4 off electromagnetic force
interactions -/-…-/+…+/-…+/+ (NN,NS,SN,SS) don’t cancel out in science (in the cosmos) which is why it’s known with 100% certainty that both the Atheism religion and Theism religion starting philosophies don’t apply in reality science and therefore Bob and Max have got it wrong.
Need I say, debate over.
To claim that you know the difference between good and evil and adopt that supposed knowledge as the foundational philosophy (+=- and -=+ OR +=+ and -=-) for your scientific endeavours is to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and your science and psychology is cognitively biased and wrong and confirms that you are spiritually dead.The tree of life foundational philosophy +/-=+/- is cognitively unbiased and does not claim to know the difference between good and evil.To adopt this starting philosophy for your science and psychology confirms reality and confirms that you are spiritually alive.
I think the true miracle lies not in divine intervention breaking the laws of nature, but in the fact that it is so near and yet eludes us. It is not the notion of a remote ‘heaven’ sending part of itself into our world that should baffle and inspire, but the fact that human life contains a faculty capable of perceiving and expressing the extraordinary through the ordinary. We possess an innate strangeness; an ability to imagine what does not yet exist, to search for patterns and meaning, and to strive for understanding and even imitation of the creative force itself.
This mysterious capacity suggests that the divine realm is not distant or external but woven into the fabric of our consciousness. It manifests whenever we awaken to the depth of reality and when we cease seeing ourselves as separate fragments and begin to recognise the continuity of life and awareness flowing through all things. Union with that inner source is not achieved through anything external, but by paying more profound attention to what already is and waking up to the reality that the sacred is within.
The spirit (non physical) is totally interwoven with the physical (non spiritual).
The light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.
Clearly.
John 1:5
+/-=+/-
A judgemental attitude is furthest from my mind. It is so easy to conceive of being judgmental and the line between judgmental and exposing is very narrow.
Corruption has been entering into the churches since 1844.
There was a time when Protestants spoke up. Luther said "I know that the Pope is the antichrist and that his seat is that of Satan himself, that’s straight talk right?
That is what Luther said and the reformers hewed it in stone to make sure that posterity would never forget their stance.
A Pope from the Roman church wrote this, the churches are no sisters of ours, it must always be clear that the one holy Catholic and Apostolic universal church is not the sister but the mother of all the churches. (Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict) Freemasonry is a front for the Illuminati and the inner circle of the spiritual hierarchy of occultism which has its heart in the Roman Catholic Church.
Let’s look at Billy Graham who said “I think Islam is misunderstood because Muhammad had great respect for Jesus and called Jesus the greatest of the prophets except for himself and I think that we are closer to Islam than we really think we are”. What!
When islam says that Jesus is not the son of God and the God is indignant if he is called the son of God and he never died for you and there’s no such thing as the atonement and Graham says we are fine with that …this doesn’t sound Christian!
Look at that mega preacher Kenneth Copeland, he says you don’t have a god in you you are one. He says that Adam was God manifest in the flesh, God’s reason for creating Adam was his desire to reproduce himself. A reproduction of himself in the Garden of Eden. He says that the spirit of God spoke to him and said you could have done the same thing you could have been the people’s savior because you are a reborn man too. That is spiritualism.
Judgemental you say…we can’t be judgmental, let him say what he has to say.
Kenneth E Hagin. This is where we are at today. Christianity.
https://www.facebook.com/ritworldtv/videos/kenneth-hagin-ministries-/2184684808552940/
I can’t for the life of me understand what this has to do with what I have written.
You just take numerous explicit examples of strangeness and associate them with … what? I have attended so-called “charismatic” events and identified the manipulation immediately.
If anything, I am bringing Jesus back down to earth and showing that his teaching is valuable to people who follow him, but is in stark contradiction to the power the church wielded in history. I am also showing that the martyrdom of Jesus was tragically repeated in church history.
It is part of a global struggle between wisdom and power, empowerment and subjugation, nurture and neglect, compassion and heartlessness, unity and division.
There is another example I could bring. The parable of the Sower is commonly believed to be about evangelising, but taken in its context, it was about how the believers (or the church) react when the call to compassion reaches them. Jesus was describing his own situation and how his message of love is received. There are many examples of where traditional reading has overlooked a different perspective.
The REALITY is that up till now we’ve had 300+ years of wasted efforts developing cognitively biased atheistic science founded upon a +=- and -=+ philosophy all of which is complete and utter nonsense because we know that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS (attractive and repulsive forces) ABSOLUTES don’t cancel out and never will.So we know that science doesn’t support the atheistic view that good is bad and bad is good and there aren’t any moral absolutes.
This is slowly being confirmed as we know because the cult of atheistic science theories have all now failed or in the process of total failure.
This is an atheism tragedy not a christian tragedy.
The history of the Church itself is very interesting. It began very humbly, a sect of pagan men developing a heretical Jewish creed based on the belief that the מָשִׁיחַ, the Messiah, had come to earth. Jews could not accept that and then those heretics had to find a new name for themselves, a new creed. In the beginning it was all very simple, Jesus came to save humankind from sin, sacrificed himself at the cross for us and anyone who would repent could enter his kingdom of heaven. A wildly distant belief from the exclusivism of Jews. You went from “God chose one people” to “Anyone can be saved”. But as history progressed, and the Church was established as the spiritual heir of the Roman empire, keeping many of its institutions and formalities, the exclusivism was brought to the table again with the magic formula Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (No redemption outside of the Church). That is, if before only Jews were favored in God’s eyes, now it was only Catholics. God still has a chosen people, but this people is the one under the command of the Catholic Church. And to this day, they haven’t overcome this understanding. Although many Catholics today have a broader and more tolerant understanding of religious issues, the formula Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus has not been officially abandoned to this day.
And the most ironic thing of all is that everything the Catholic Church is and has done in history stems from these simple verses in Mt 16: 13-20:
“Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ”.
which could be interpreted in a totally different way. I really wonder what Jesus himself would think and say about the Catholic Church, and about the whole Christendom itself.
What you are doing is showing your predilection for Pantheism, i.e. that God and the universe are the same things rather than separate things.
What I am doing is taking the extraordinary claims out of the story and making it plausible again.
In many ways, the situation Jesus started speaking in was like our situation. There were groups all over the place with their ideas about what the country should do about the influx of Hellenism and the Roman occupation, and how to retain their identity as Jews. Should they rebel, protest, or drag their feet when ordered to do something?
Others said that they should return to obedience to the law and follow it stringently. They criticised the complicit and the compromised, they condemned the poor by saying that God wouldn’t have inflicted them if they were good Jews.
Jesus came and said, "Calm down, people. All we have to do is wake up and realise who we are. We believe ourselves to be blessed by God, but we show that so little. Yes, life hasn’t been easy for us, but look to the prophets and be what we claim to be. The realm of God is already within you and waiting for you to let your Father’s love rule. We have the image of the Suffering Servant. That’s us. God wants us to be a light in the world, the salt of the earth.
Then you will find the strength to go that extra mile, show the other cheek, and when they take your coat, you give them your shirt. You question whether you should pay their taxes, but the coins have Caesar’s face on them. Give him what is his, but give God what his is: Your heart and soul. Love God and love your neighbour, love even your enemy. Make peace before you make an offering. Be generous with what you have and recognise the small things and the people in need. They are your testing ground. Whatever you do for them, you do for God.
That way, you will never be conquered, and you will set an example that will show that our God is powerful among us."
Jesus Christ was very clear in his teachings about individuals who genuinely believe in God but who prefer to jump over the fence into the sheepfold rather than go through the gate.
I keep warning Ichthus.
John10:1
This is why I say mere theism is of no use to you.As much use to you as mere atheism.
Theism/Atheism=Theism/Atheism
James 2:19
There is no Christian tragedy.
“I exist,therefore I am”
I need to exist to claim that I don’t exist.If I claim that I don’t exist then I am a liar who exists.
Things have moved on to accurate philosophy now.
“I think,therefore I am” is gathering dust in the archives of philosophical failures.
There is a theistic and atheistic tragedy.There always has been.
Charlie Kirk was a salient example of what Evangelical Christians have been getting wrong in this century.
I found this interview was on the point:
I like what you have to say Bob. Keep up the good work.
https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/2016387506648895686
Christians = Judaized goy….
They worship the god of the Jews. the god of victims.
Seducing all those that find nature brutal and unjust, and who want a way out - salvation.
This is why why they reject free-will….and in the bible it is used as a way to maintain god’s purity.
Free-will is how man is used as a scapegoat for god, and god as a scapegoat for man.
The Christ narrative is the inversion….the body dies so as to be reborn as pure spirit - body is the source of evil. Primordial sin.
To live requires the death of other life…..this is what must be expunged through a sacrifice that isn’t really a sacrifice.
Can god, as the Abrahamics define him, die?
So what is sacrificed at the crucifixion?
The body. Tangible reality. The escape is in the Platonic cave where ideals exist in theory but not i fact.
Nietzsche’s declaration of god’s death was of the Jew god of victims….but the cocnept did not die it was reborn…it was remade, abstracted, requiring no punishment, no sacrifice.
Now man could never break sacred laws….so he can never sin.
Meaning….he can never be wrong, do wrong, be in error,…everything is in accordance with god’s will- determined.
Immortality becomes ‘eternal return’…..no shame….no regrets….no guilt….nothing is ever in error.
Nothing is inferior…nothing is unfit…nothing is less or more than….all is the same.
Life, death….the living the non-living….the genius the moron….the weakling the strong man….all determined.
No shame but also no pride.
No guilt but also no innocence.
No man, no woman….no human no animal…no Greek no Jew….all is the same.
You believe that you exist and are a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion) rather than a representation of reality (a non illusion) Silenus.
We know what you believe.
You’re a psychotic who exists and tries to counsel others about their mental health…..it’s hilarious.
You claim your science started by magic because if it didn’t then your starting philosophy is incorrect which again is hilarious….….you don’t understand how reality philosophy,science or psychology works Silenus because you remain in the dark…..and refuse to come into the light.
We already know that there is no meaning in mere binary alone but then you aren’t binary Silenus ……you are separate from it……..the reality is that you exist (because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist ) and you are a hater of a God that you know you can’t prove exists or doesn’t exist.
We know all about how you think and reason Silenus…..so you don’t have to explain it to us.
Jesus is not a historical figure…he is a representation.
Saul invented Christianity….mixing Jewish slave mysticism, which they appropriated from ancient-Egypt, and Persia and every empire they were expelled from,and Platonism.
This is how this topic starts, go from there.
Joel Webbon single-handedly killed it