The death of Charlie Kirk

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I didnt say it did.

I was pointing out his naivety or ideas of grandeur, or to put it more succinctly, his unrealistic, belief in his own superiority, power or abilities. particularly when he said:

“I think it’s worth the cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

Little did he know how prophetic his words would be.

He obviously was becoming disconnected with reality, with people’s real hardships and suffering right now, right at this moment.

It is tantamount to saying to a person who has no job, no money, no security and someone says “get a job”, when all they want is a job and there are none to be had.

TIMES ARE TOUGH AND GETTING TOUGHER.

People don’t want to be talked down to, they want to eat, to sleep, be safe and have some semblance of personal emotional peace.

You can’t have any of the above with words only and that is all he offered.

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I know you’re stoned but I left a short history lesson for ya, Artimas, in that 20 hr a week vid.

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I didn’t watch the video, so tell me if I’ve got this right: This Turning Point USA was financed by old rich white persons so they could get a clean-cut Jesus 'n nutmeg turtleneck family values Saturday soccer games conservative guy on the radio to poison the minds of everyone with superstitious religious nonsense and right-wing propaganda so the young viewers will go to work for the old rich white men that financed the show? That’s brilliant, actually.

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AU Skip navigation Search Create Avatar image European Parliament Refuses Moment of Silence for Charlie Kirk After Fatal Shooting

Trump: “The radicals on the right are radical because they don’t want to see crime … The radicals on the left are the problem – and they are vicious and horrible and politically savvy. They want men in women’s sports, they want transgender for everyone, they want open borders. The worst thing that happened to this country.”

Always seizes an opportunity for a bitter blame game.

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Which video? I don’t smoke anymore actually, only cigarettes.

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I’m guessing that youve not listened to anything he has said. I hadn’t even heard of him. I thought oh okay some right radical shot, that’s oing to cause some more division. But then I watched a few of his debates with college kids, turns out the guy was actually somewhat of a philosopher, teaching kids how to handle facts, and how to employ reason. Id never seen any public American do that.

Also not a racist. I asked AI to produce some examples of his racism, all it could come up with was that he was against affirmative action. His fans were mostly white but plenty of blacks in there too. And lots of women. From what I’ve listened to he was actually the most proactively rational and decent public American Ive seen in years.

An actual thinker, with the ballls to do it in public. I suspect that that, not his convictions, is why he was killed off. Cant have a philosopher walking around our kids in the middle of a brainwashing psyop. Lets make him serve the psyop.

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“turns out the guy was actually somewhat of a philosopher, teaching kids how to handle facts”

Kids he would hours later call “the woke mob” in the title of his video. Those kids were dummies that he cared nothing about and used only as props to show-off on for his next youtube video.

Yeah, so no, these guys are shallow shitbuckets with Izods on, and there’s nothing to them whatsoever. My question is… how can someone NOT see this. The only explanation i can think of is… and don’t punch me when i say this: they are one of em!

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Precisely. I’m surprised Jakob can’t see that.

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Here are some real quotes by Charlie Kirk to illustrate the young man’s take on things:

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

Did this backfire on him?

If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

He seemed to believe there is a place for blacks and one for whites in a multi-ethnic society.

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

Here we can almost see Mr. Authoritarian discretly smiling in the last row.

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

A prophet of theocracy for the Instagram era?

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.

This needn’t even be said, guy was against present day gender identity issues. He wasn’t against prying in an individual’s most intimate of intimacies, sex life, in a country apparently built on the notion of individual autonomy. Like all fake advocates of free speech, he defended it so he could, one day, silence anyone who disagreed with him.

Nope, sorry not sorry, I don’t think much was lost on that day.

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So….who had the means and the motive to kill Charlie?

You’re crazy for wanting answers about Charlie Kirk.

Let’s listen to Charlie Kirk himself….before he was taken out.

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Typical cliched LEFTist speech. You have absolutely NO evidence that Charlie Kirk advocated HATE.

All he ever did was argue the POV that MASS immigration is NOT a good thing for any society, and that indeed ISLAM is not something that any civilised society should embrace.

The fact that those on the RIGHT have this as their main discourse is not reason to consider it hateful. Charlie always argued his POV in an extremely articulate and rational manner. The fact is, that is many of those on the ‘LEFT’ that actually hate. They hate themselves when they realise their beliefs are irrational and they cannot defeat the likes of Charlie and moi intellectually.

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I see you’re an Islamophobe. Islamophobe is another term for a hater of Islam. It is simple to see why Kirk was no hatemonger to you. He defended your own views.

Three fun facts about the graphics you brought to the table:

a) no Saudi Arabia, you know, just the birthplace of Islam;

b) no United Arab Emirates, one of the most striking symbols of capitalist progress in the world today- who wouldn’t like to live in Dubai?;

c) Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, is very, very low. And the most notorious thing is that the Indonesians are the most peaceful, tolerant and amiable people in the history of the universe.

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The only hate that is ethically reprehensible is anti-Semitism…fortunately few Semites live in Israel, but plenty live in Islamic nations.

So anti-Islam is anti-Semitic.

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War on Islam is a war on actual diversity.

The only ethical and political system acceptable to America is its own…and those that allow their resources to be pillaged by American corporations.

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I am anti Abrahamism, I don’t like Judaism, I don’t like Christianity, and I don’t like Islam. In my book it is all bad. As far as I am concerned all three are slightly different faces of the same savior messianic death cult.

As for Islam look at what it has done to both Buddhism and Hinduism throughout history. Afghanistan and Pakistan use to be Buddhist regions for centuries, Islam wiped all of that out in less than a single century. There was even small Buddhist enclaves in ancient Iran living side by side with Zoroastrianism in peace, again, Islam wiped it all out. :clown_face:

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Max RE: “Three fun facts about the graphics you brought to the table:

a) no Saudi Arabia, you know, just the birthplace of Islam;

b) no United Arab Emirates, one of the most striking symbols of capitalist progress in the world today- who wouldn’t like to live in Dubai?;

c) Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, is very, very low. And the most notorious thing is that the Indonesians are the most peaceful, tolerant and amiable people in the history of the universe.”

The FACTS I raised were with regards to MASS immigration and the types of people and culture that you LEFTists insist should be welcomed - had nothing to do with Islam, but I am glad you noticed the perpetrators of VIOLENT CRIME were predominantly from Islamic cultures..

The fact that Saudi Arabia, UAE, Indonesia didn’t get a mention could have a number of reasons, including that there is far less immigration from the more affluent forms of Islamic countries..

Islamaphobe!!!? LMAO

Is it not rational to have a level of fear of ISLAM when it has this within it’s doctrinal insistence of Muslims the following:-

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    Introduction to Surah
    65. At-Talâq

    1. And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allâh and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.

    2. Killing on non-believers

Surah 9:29: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah [tax] willingly while they are humbled.”

“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).

“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).

“Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties; in exchange for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they slay and are slain” (Quran 9:111).

“Truly Allah loves those who fight in His cause in battle array…” (Quran 61:4)

“The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Sahih Muslim 1:33).

Mohammed’s last words: ‘Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying."’

3. Killing apostates
Bukhari[52:260] "…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ "

Quran[4:89] “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”

4. Rape of captured women enemies
Qur’an 4:24 permits intercourse with women captured in jihad (holy war). The verse states: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.” This implies that female captives can be taken as concubines or wives by Muslim men after they have been captured in battle

Isn’t ISLAM LOVELY!!! FFS. There IS A RATIOINAL REASON to fear the above!!! IDIOT. Thus the term “Islamaphobia” makes no sense..we should fear ISLAM.

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I’ve read the Qu’ran. It’s a horribly written book. Yet, the existence of tolerant Muslims indicates that many do not take everything there at face value. If all Muslims were Shiites or Osamas, then we would really have a reason to fear and hate it. But it happens that the greatest Muslim nation is none other than Indonesia.

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Max:- “I’ve read the Qu’ran. It’s a horribly written book. Yet, the existence of tolerant Muslims indicates that many do not take everything there at face value. If all Muslims were Shiites or Osamas, then we would really have a reason to fear and hate it.”

Do you honestly believe there is no rational reason to fear the spread of ISLAM throughout our Western populations - particularly where Muslims are then given freedom to VOTE within our democracies?

NOTE THIS:-

There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course, not all of them are radicals. The majority of them are peaceful people.

The radicals are estimated to be between 15% to 25%, according to all intelligence services around the world. That leaves 75% of them peaceful people.

But when you look at 15% to 25% of the world Muslim population, you’re looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

That is as big as the population of the United States.

ABOVE FROM TRANSCRIPT of UTUBE:-

Brigitte Gabriel answers a Muslim woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

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Have you ever read the history of Sri Lanka? :clown_face: