The Devil is God

[Ecmandu]

@Random Factor

1. Point out each contradiction. Explain why it’s a contradiction.

2. Explain how im being vague and where I’m being vague. If you want me to be less vague, guide me.

3. If you can’t even put in that much work, why should anyone listen to anything you say as intelligible, reasonable or wise?

4. You vaguely wave hands while claiming not to. You contradict yourself quite often while claiming that I do when I don’t. This makes you a hypocrite.

5. When I get ‘smart’ enough to post like you, I’ll only have succeeded in making myself stupider and would fail in having success as a good person. Giving into such idiocy would literally kill me in all of the worst ways and I refuse to die like that. As I said, I refuse to go out like a bitch.

Actually RF, this is the best post I’ve ever seen from you…

It facilitates discussion…

Number 3 is easy…

You lack insight into what is obvious to everyone on these boards

1.)

You insult me on every post without pointing out logical flaws

It’s the same problem gib had with you…

He literally wanted you to explain, like to a 5 year old, what we were all missing… You still haven’t done it, you just made the claim that I bluster without quoting me.

Read my signature some time…

Calculate an argument upon itself before presenting it

It’s obvious to me that you are an extremely jealous person, with poor insight, and actually I think you’d murder someone in cold blood because of it, you’re cracking, but not being suicidal, that jealous rage will come out on the percieved threat to your ego.

I’m being dead serious too.

Your words can’t possibly be constructive because they don’t refer at all… That’s the vagueness I was talking about.

The thing you accuse me of doing, you do with every post, and I certainly don’t …

So, I have the high ground here in terms of hypocrisy

Nobody knows what your work is…

Now you’re exhibiting borderline traits

I have the least dramatic “dharma” in all of human history…

You have yet to even state an opinion of life in 30 posts, yet call me a drama queen

I’m actually not angry at you, this, again, is projection

If you accept this shithole torture chamber, by all means, stay… I’m not asking you otherwise…

If it makes you feel like you’re a man and not a coward … Join a church, they’ll love you there!!

[Ecmandu]

Oh, and by the way…

My relaxed perfectionism is really hard fucking work

[Ultimate_Philosophy (Ultimate Philosophy 1001)]

@Ecmandu

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Actually RF, this is the best post I’ve ever seen from you…

It facilitates discussion…

Number 3 is easy…

You lack insight into what is obvious to everyone on these boards

1.)

You insult me on every post without pointing out logical flaws

It’s the same problem gib had with you…

He literally wanted you to explain, like to a 5 year old, what we were all missing… You still haven’t done it, you just made the claim that I bluster without quoting me.

Read my signature some time…

Calculate an argument upon itself before presenting it

It’s obvious to me that you are an extremely jealous person, with poor insight, and actually I think you’d murder someone in cold blood because of it, you’re cracking, but not being suicidal, that jealous rage will come out on the percieved threat to your ego.

I’m being dead serious too.

Your words can’t possibly be constructive because they don’t refer at all… That’s the vagueness I was talking about.

The thing you accuse me of doing, you do with every post, and I certainly don’t …

So, I have the high ground here in terms of hypocrisy

Nobody knows what your work is…

Now you’re exhibiting borderline traits

I have the least dramatic “dharma” in all of human history…

You have yet to even state an opinion of life in 30 posts, yet call me a drama queen[/size]

I agree, it’s difficult to win an argument against RF, because when you go to do it it feels so vague and litters it with little specks of bullshit so you are not actually sure what it is you are arguing about.

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

Listen, Ec. I refuse to see certain situations beyond face value. When you and others are sitting there insulting me and ripping into me, even if I could, I won’t see past that to what you’re trying to say through it. The whole point is that even if we could talk to each other in the mind and relate, your mind language does not compute into body language. I point out how the face value of your body language comes across and until you get that fixed, we really have nothing further to discuss.

Mind, body, spirit, words, action, must all be in alignment and I’m going to keep drilling you until you get it right because yiuve been largely misreading me and think I’ve been missing things that I haven’t been, think I need to learn things I dont need to learn.

I confuse you because I’m the statistical impossibility of being the one exception to the god complex. I actually am.

[Ecmandu]

@Random Factor

Listen, Ec. I refuse to see certain situations beyond face value. When you and others are sitting there insulting me and ripping into me, even if I could, I won’t see past that to what you’re trying to say through it. The whole point is that even if we could talk to each other in the mind and relate, your mind language does not compute into body language. I point out how the face value of your body language comes across and until you get that fixed, we really have nothing further to discuss.

Mind, body, spirit, words, action, must all be in alignment and I’m going to keep drilling you until you get it right because yiuve been largely misreading me and think I’ve been missing things that I haven’t been, think I need to learn things I dont need to learn.

I confuse you because I’m the statistical impossibility of being the one exception to the god complex. I actually am.

My body language??

laughs

I have great charm when I’m not being possessed…

That’s other spirits body language!!

But apparently you didn’t know that!!

Funny, because all my friends do…

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

It. Does. Not. Matter. Spiritual possession of your body is not a viable defense in a court of law. If a spirit possesses you and makes you fuck over someone else, it’s still your body that’s at risk of injury or death. It’s up to you to manage and maintain your body, your responsibility and when whatever spirits are done making you dance to their tune, you left feeling hollow, empty and used. Your body, you still facing the consequences, still left holding the bag of stolen goods after their joy ride is done. No excuses.

[Ecmandu]

@Random Factor

It. Does. Not. Matter. Spiritual possession of your body is not a viable defense in a court of law. If a spirit possesses you and makes you fuck over someone else, it’s still your body that’s at risk of injury or death. It’s up to you to manage and maintain your body, your responsibility and when whatever spirits are done making you dance to their tune, you left feeling hollow, empty and used. Your body, you still facing the consequences, still left holding the bag of stolen goods after their joy ride is done. No excuses.

That’s a question of what court or if court…

I agree, with humans it is not a defense…

But there are much higher courts

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

@Ecmandu

@Random Factor

It. Does. Not. Matter. Spiritual possession of your body is not a viable defense in a court of law. If a spirit possesses you and makes you fuck over someone else, it’s still your body that’s at risk of injury or death. It’s up to you to manage and maintain your body, your responsibility and when whatever spirits are done making you dance to their tune, you left feeling hollow, empty and used. Your body, you still facing the consequences, still left holding the bag of stolen goods after their joy ride is done. No excuses.

That’s a question of what court or if court…

I agree, with humans it is not a defense…

But there are much higher courts

And even in those higher courts, personal responsibility still affects a majority of decisions. As understanding as higher vourts are and may be, laws are laws and shoukd onky be broken by those who weigh the possibilities and are willing to face whatever consequences may exist. Is doing the right thing worth an eternity in hell if such hell does Exist? If not, wouldnt you go to hell, then, for not doing the right Thing? And, if it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t, why not do the right thing anyway on the off chance that someone fixes your trial and springs you. Broke some laws to get shit done, looked like a criminal, but…

And, if you’re not willing to face the worst possible consequences for doing what’s right, if you just expect good return for doing good, then…

1. You’re living in the wrong damn reality, sadly, and…
2. You’d be vastly unworthy of heaven.

When it’s something that should just be expected of others, being good, why would you expect reward for doing what all entities should be doing?

There is always a court, always an ongoing trial. No if, just a matter of when and how far down the spiritual road.

[Ecmandu]

You’re stealing from me…

“Judgement never stops”

Only higher courts can judge possessions …

Not humans…

I can tell by your reply that you have no clue of that what you speak

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

I’m not stealing from you. Just because you may be party to such discussions in the mind doesn’t mean I steal from you. By me putting it out into physicality, it is proof that it is mine by right and that you are largely an idiot.

You’re saying that humans don’t have the right to actually and purposefully try to get things right. That ‘god’ somehow fucked up a perfect design of learning and growth over time through advance of knowledge and experience, repetition to muscle memory to begin learning beyond past limitations and plateaus.

I find placebo effect sentiments such as that to greatly retard the growth of many. There is solid proof of this throughout every aspect of existence. It is a recurrent pattern able to be analyzed and approached by psychology. It can be fixed by breaking the stubborn clinginess of many to such unhealthy placebo effects. Discipline. Balance. Order and organization.

[Ecmandu]

Man, you have no clue what you’re talking about…

If I were like you, I’d have stopped with the above sentence … That’s who you are. Objectively.

Now let’s delve into this deeper …

This is called a real reply!!

A concept you don’t understand

This universe cannot appease everyone.

So what you do is offer the mind field an idea and it can’t appease, it just poofs you…

No drama, perfect ethics

Actually, I’m just repeating myself, as I would to a retard who keeps asking why six fingers represent the number 6.

I’m being kind and patient with you

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

That is honestly how I feel when talking to people like you, but more insulting and less informative.

[Innovice]

@Random Factor

There is more evidence of Lucifer being God and God being the devil if religions view of God to be all powerful is considered in any form of a realistic viewing. I am willing and able to expand on this in the progression of this thread if there are willing participants.

This is another way to state omnipotence and omnipresent I suppose

Widely accepted that God is omnipotent - To argue that God is all powerful with respect to the devil is widely accepted from my experience. Also I have heard many people say “God is everywhere” or omnipresent - ie also where the devil is.

The reduction or equation of God as devil may serve a purpose… keeping in mind that the omnipotence of God enables him to remove that purpose… IE your statement is one of identity, I believe God can choose to intervene in the identity question.

This dissonance is strong

[The_Eternal_Warrior]

Omnipresence and omnipotence are grossly misunderstood, as well.