In fact, it is ‘I’ who has claimed that all adult human beings have been indoctrinated into ‘the cults’ that they all live in.
Try explaining that to “greenfuse”.
Again, try explaining this to “greenfuse”.
I never thought nor said otherwise.
Why led you to presume I was?
So can you, right?
How so? Is anyone view that is not yours a narrow and closed view of things? Then you are the one who is actually closed minded. I mean definitionally you are closed minded because you think that you have the truth and that you cannot be wrong and that no one else could be right. How can you know the truth of everything? Are you some world travelled philosopher who has been contemplating reality for decades? I highly doubt it.
It is quoted in the thing you responded to. What is wrong with you? Read it dude jesus
I do believe otherwise because you are far too certain about your beliefs. Anyone I have ever known to be genuinely correct about something at least engages with a topic with the understanding that they could be wrong because our beliefs tend to be as strong as they can be with our given information, but there could always be more information that is obtained. Any young person that claims to know the answer to the truth of the universe just sounds like they are pretentious and egotistical.
Do you think that I am responding to the message you just said in a post that you have yet to post?
This is one of the flaws you have. This quote demonstrates that you do not understand implication. Why would you say that I am indoctrinated if it is not intended as some kind of attack on my person? Or as a way to defeat an argument? I understand if you just see it as saying the truth in some way, but there are implications to what you say.
Another flaw of yours. Instead of actually responding to what I said, you ask a rherorical question. You do this often as a response instead of actually responding with something of substance.
This is Right. you said;
Now, if you do NOT ‘know’ this, do you only ‘believe’ this, only?
What you actually said was;
Which I totally agree with. I do not know things just because I claim to.
I KNOW things because I have the actual proof/s and/or fact/s, instead.
Considering that it is ‘I’ who does not believe nor claim to know things just because I claim to, what you have written here has absolutely nothing at all to do with me.
I KNOW.
Again, you think or believe that ‘space’ just stops or ends, without physical objects.
you have not asked me this, nor said this.
Look, I have said and claimed:
‘Space’ can only ‘end’ at or with physical objects.
‘Space’ is between and around physical objects.
Even if there were so-called furthest physical objects, there is ‘space’ all around them.
The ‘distance’ space goes on for, on the other side of the furthest objects, would have to go on forever or infinitely.
Of, if there was one physical object circumnavigating all ‘space’, then that physical object would go on forever more, ‘outwards’, of if is of limited thickness, then there would be, again, ‘space’ or a distance on the other side of it.
Therefore, since ‘space’ is included in the definition for the ‘Universe’ word, the Universe not just possibly is infinite but is actually irrefutably infinite.
As, once again, shown and proved to be so, by the facts and the proof here.
Agreed.
And, I have already explained why ‘you’ do not yet know.
This, again, is because you are not yet open to ‘the facts’ and ‘the proof’.
Okay.
What ‘that body’ has experienced previously, hitherto, is the reason why ‘you’ are ‘the way’ ‘you’ are, and how and why ‘you’ think and do what ‘you’ think and do, exactly.
I do not think or believe this. This is an example of something you have claimed to know that you are wrong about.
But, I am NOT asking a question. As can be clearly seen and obviously proved absolutely True.
So, I am not sure what you are reading and “seeing” here, exactly.
‘I’ ALREADY KNEW what you think is true here.
I also ALREADY KNEW why you are, still, not yet able to recognise and see the irrefutable proofs and actual Facts and Truth here.
It is examples like this one that show and explain how and why it took ‘these people’ so, so long to ‘catch up’ and learn and understand what the actual Truths in Life are, fully and exactly.
This one only has to ‘not think something’ to then reject any argument that requires it. Therefore, for example, if this one did ‘not think that a finite universe is possible’, then it would reject any argument that requires ‘it’.
Again, I DID NOT ask a question.
Seriously, what are you “seeing” here, exactly?
And, thank you very much for doing so.
you have just proved, absolutely True, another claim that I have said and expressed in these forums.
Okay.
I suggest you also reread, but with and from a far more open and honest perspective, next time.
I hope you know that things do not have to match exactly word for word for them to have the same or similar meaning. This is an example of one of your flaws where you need words to literally be the exact same or else the meaning somehow can not be the same, but just worded differently as I imagine you agree that there are such things as synonyms.
Why does it have to go on forever? Just because you claim it must? See this is what I mean by just stating that something has to be a certain way. Not only can you not substantiate why it has to go on forever beyond saying that that is how space works even though I disagree with the definition of space as distance, but you also have not proven that infinity is possible which is necessary to say that something is infinite.
Yea no shit. Of course our experiences shape us as people. But you have not answered how I am the way I am, just why I am the way I am.
Thank you VERY MUCH. As this will be very helpful, for me.
How, exactly, do you KNOW what is going to happen in ‘the future’?
Why do you believe, absolutely, that this is going to happen in ‘the future’?
What is ‘a flaw’ of ‘mine’, here, exactly?
Are you saying that a flaw of mine is that ‘I’ explain away how ‘I’ have no flaws?
If this is a flaw of mine, then how did you come to KNOW this already, exactly?
Have I written absolutely anywhere that I have no flaws?
If yes, then where and when, exactly?
But, if no, then what are you basing your claim here on, exactly?
WOW. Where are these claims and accusations coming from, exactly?
What are you basing them on, exactly?
Okay.
If ‘this’ is what you believe is absolutely true, then this is perfectly fine and okay.
Also, notice how susceptible and how easily, simply, and quickly ‘these people’ really can be and are to being influenced and indoctrinated.
Okay.
you do this also, but because you believe absolutely otherwise, you will just refuse and deny this outright.
Okay.
you, laughably, believe that you have answered questions, where none even exist.
As proved above.
There are also multiple ‘actual questions’ that you have not answered, at all.
LOL This post of its is the first time it has listed “my flaws” but LOL I had, already, somehow already dismissed, poorly, and rejected ‘these flaws’, which have only now been posted and presented.
Talk about presenting of an example of ‘living in one’s own head’.
‘We’ were talking about ‘my claim’ and how the Universe, Itself, is infinite, but somehow ‘you’ were, supposedly, only talking about a very tiny small and miniature narrow part of the whole entire Universe.
Not necessarily so.
But, obviously, if what is being talked about is the entire Universe, and not just ‘a part’ of the whole Universe, then the one who has only been talking about a very, very minuscule part of the whole Universe, itself, has a very narrow or closed view.
ONCE MORE, there is NO such thing as a so-called ‘closed mind’.
Why are so many of ‘your interpretations’ so absolutely Wrong and False?
I do NOT think any of what you just said and claimed here.
For one who claims to be an “expert” at communication, you are not doing a very job of it at all here.
LOL Why, again, do you use the ‘everything’ word here?
Where are all these absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect claims of yours coming from, exactly?
See how when they believe something, or get something ‘stuck’, "in their head’, then they cannot see clearly at all, and just go off on completely divergent tangents.
Once again, when they are completely and utterly explain or elaborate on what they say and claim, then instead of just providing clarification, they resort to making up some sort of ‘excuse’ for not providing anything, and then they, again, TELL ‘me’ to “go read and find out for yourself”.
Which is just further proof that they have no real idea nor clue here.
I’ve discussed flaws of your’s previously, but another flaw of yours is the fact that you need me to say that they are flaws or else you cannot tell that I am criticizing you and pointing out flaws. I have to literally say that they are flaws or else you would not know because you cannot understand any meaning that is not literal. You should try and learn more about the function of communication and be more open to high context communication.
You don’t seem to recognize that extrapolating information from a small amount of information and stating that the entire universe functions how one small part does is egotistical and cannot be proven. But somehow I am narrow minded for not extrapolating to something that cannot be proven. I hope you know that with how you argue, you would fail any philosophy class because you cannot engage with abstract topics without claiming to know everything. Do you actually like philosophy or are you just here to push your views onto other people? Because you seem to hate any philosopher that has been mentioned.
Another unproven claim. You keep saying that the mind is open, but in what way can the mind not be closed? Is it because of your unsubstantiated proof of God that doesn’t consider almost any philosophical arguments for God besides your own made up list of properties?
I said go read it because you literally had to have to have quoted me, but then you asked what like you can’t read. Here is the exact quote:
You keep saying how the universe works is already known. This is just your opinion as is what I am saying here. You can only appeal to other people agreeing with you as can I to say that what we think is true because you have to rely on the information of others just as much as I do. You would know nothing of the universe without the information provided by scientists. My main issue in the entire discussion is the unjustified certainty that you have for your claims.