The ethnic future of the United States 2085

[MrAuthoritarian]

The year is 2085 where the last European white Americans have taken refuge in the northeastern state of Maine but even there is only a few hundred thousand left. Most look at the United States racist historical past ending with Donald Trump politically where afterward the slow erasure of White America being an overall good thing as there is no huge numbers of white Americans left anywhere at all inside of the nation beyond the state of Maine.

The new acting president is a Chinese woman where many of her political staffers are Indian or other Chinese people.

The latest political conspiracy is that the president’s allegiance is closer to her ancestral homeland of China than it is for America.

With a recent influx of immigrants coming from India and China the majority of Mexicans, Central Americans, or South Americans that makes up the majority of the national population are complaining about their inability to learn Spanish assimilating to the local culture.

As a new political movement headed by Juan Rodriguez publicly exclaims, “Learn Spanish and leave your Hindi or Mandarin out of the nation!”

There is a national public debate that too many Chinese, Indian, and Asian people are over represented in the nation’s campus universities where it is in fact undermining the national community of society that is overwhelmingly Latin American.

The dominant Latin American and Mexican population has decried Asian racism or privilege discriminating against Latin student applicants.

[MrAuthoritarian]

The United States isn’t a nation, country, society, or civilization, it’s an economic zone and international territorial business empire where the inhabitants are interchangeable along with being completely replaceable economic units of labor. The only thing that matters is financial capital and the military might to destroy anybody that challenges it.

Financial capital or money is our national God, religion, and cultural identity. Nothing else matters.

[Nausamedu (il_Nulla)]

No. The USA is not quite there yet, but its being turned into an economical zone just like europe is.
This is what excess communist liberalism gets you where nationalism is the devil.

You will have no roots. No identity. Not even a gender.
Nobody to stand with you. You will be cattle. Erasing all culture and identity is what the current WEF and globalist class is trying to do.
You shall have your pod. You will eat the bugs. You will own nothing, you will be nothing, and you will be happy. And if not, we will see to it that you are either dead, reeducated or locked out of society.

You WILL know once you arrived at that point. Rest assured.
You wont be able to miss it once you have gotten there.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

Here we have two different, separate dystopian fantasies of
the future…and I can guarantee that neither one will happen…
because the future, even 20 minutes from now is not and cannot
be known…ever… you can’t even predict what the headlines
will be tomorrow, little less in a few years…and one fantasy,
about the racial content of America, leaves us wondering
why this particular fantasy, the why? why is it so important
that only white, Anglo-Saxens survive? for many people here
and elsewhere, the survival of the white race is imperative,
and yet, it is never quite explained why that is true? What makes
the white race superior to all other races? to the point of where
only the white race counts, and all other races can be extinguish…
For me anyway, race doesn’t matter to me,… because it is not
an important factor in being human…I don’t care if you are white,
black or red, white and blue, the color of your skin is an accidental
trait… as is the color of your hair, or your sex or even one’s
sexual orientation, all of these are not important to me…
the bigotry and prejudice that allows one to discriminate
against others, is what I am attacking… and MR. A is
about bigotry and prejudice… because for him, only white
people are worthy of being saved, and the practical matter
is that there are no people that are pure… the old Aryan belief
that the mixing of the races is dangerous and must be stopped,
is nonsense because we are all, all of us, mixed up in regards to
race.. or to say this another way, there is no such thing as a
‘‘pure’’ race…my sister took one of those genetic tests,
and I am not only part Irish, third generation, but English,
in America since the 1640’s, but a bit of native American
and African-American, Dutch, Portuguese, and the one
that confuses me, Ashkenazi Jew… and I am not alone,
anyone who takes one of those tests, will discover that they
are no different… if everyone is mixed up racially, then race
really doesn’t matter, does it? For there is no such thing as
the ‘‘White’’ race if we are all mixed up in various ways…
So, if in 60 years, if America is black or white or Chinese,
or Mexican, what does it matter? For people are just people…
So, Kropotkin, what if everyone in America is supposed to
pray to Allah? Given the rapid loss of religious belief in
the world, I wouldn’t worry too much… and two, so what?
What does it matter if you pray to Allah, or Jesus or Kant…
the question of being human isn’t about being religious,
or praying to the right or wrong god, or having no god,
that doesn’t matter in the scheme of things…
So, Kropotkin, what does matter?
Certainly, praying to a god that doesn’t exists doesn’t matter…
the question of being human is about who we are, not who
we pray to… even though, Americans seem to pray to money,
it is the one, true religion of America… and IQ45 is its high priest…
but money doesn’t define who we are, just as religion doesn’t define
who we are, just as our wealth or power or fame, doesn’t define who
we are…

so, ask yourself, if the trinkets of existence isn’t the defining
aspect of being human, think of money, titles, fame, power, material
goods, as defining what it means to be human, so, on
what other basis can we define what it means to be human?

Kropotkin

[Peter_Kropotkin]

so, if we remove certain aspects of existence, by that we mean
we remove the trinkets of existence from our lives as they
don’t give meaning or purpose to existence… wealth, fame,
titles, material possessions and power are all trinkets that add
nothing to being human… so, what exactly does being human
mean?

let us look at animals, they have no choice, they are endowed
by evolution as to being/reacting in one fashion and one fashion
only… which means they have no choices in their actions or
behavior… a dog can only choose to do dog things… they can
bark and run around and engage in the flight or fight response,
but they cannot make choices as humans can make choices…
My actions can be driven by evolution, but in being human
I can make other choices… I can act in a third fashion in
regards to say, the flight or fight response… I can love or
be anything that is possible for a human being…
My choices are not dictated by evolution or set responses
that are dictated by the software that evolution has put
on all animals…I can choose to be a philosopher or
an actor or travel or to retire… those are choices I have…
and not dictated to me by evolution… I can walk away from
love and not be driven by evolutionary choices that I can’t
ignore… choice is what makes us human beings be
human beings… and within that choice lies something
that is pretty much what it means to be human, and that is
making ethical/moral choices… ethics/morals are what define
humans from animals… and therein lies the question of the last
150 years… from Kierkegaard to Nietzsche to Sartre,
and Heidegger, the question of the 20th century philosophy
is this question, in a no-god world, how do we justify
ethics/morals? On what basis do we practice morals and ethics
if there is no god? That was the entire oeuvre of Nietzsche…
what is ethics in a no-god universe…if we can’t base ethics or
morals on there being a god, as ethics and morals have been since
the beginning of time, what do we base ethics and morals on?

That is in fact, the only real question we face today…
on what basis do we judge ethics/morals by?
What standard do we use in justifying ethics and morals?

Kropotkin

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Nausamedu

Agreed overall, except I would argue global neoliberal capitalism is the primary culprit me being the communist that I am.

You neoconservatives do love your Marxist boogeyman.

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Peter_Kropotkin

You should like this thread Peter, neoliberalism is triumphant in the future where White America is obliterated into annihilation to the point white Caucasian European Americans are on the brink of total future extinction.

Where’s all this anger and vitriol coming from? I am describing a future where your political ideology wins.

Not even happy with that either, eh?

[Nausamedu (il_Nulla)]

@MrAuthoritarian

Agreed overall, except I would argue global neoliberal capitalism is the primary culprit me being the communist that I am.

You neoconservatives do love your Marxist boogeyman.

I call it left leaning because the principle is entirely the left’s.
It was Antonio Gramsci a hard marxist who invented the entire idea and concept that in order for a communist revolution to be successful in europe, it’s identity needs to be destroyed. In fact, everything needs to be destroyed.
Family. Culture. National identity. Everything that allows people to root themselves in anything solid.

How much this can be called capitalism at all i have no idea.
There is basically a layer of society that started to take on the properties of what was the priesthood in ancient egypt.

Its almost meaningless to talk about capital when these animals are trying to create a literal new dark age and slavery.
Though i grant you that this cant be called entirely communism/marcism/left either.
It is using the left’s toolkit on every level.
But it’s goal is unquestioningly more self-serving than communism’s. It just carries all the worst aspects of communism without any upsides.

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Nausamedu

I would as a communist argue that the people doing all of this are not loyal to any particular ideology, they’re only loyal to power, domination, and conquest.

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Nausamedu

Just remember this, there are no openly Marxist or communist individuals attending the WEF and Davos. They’re all capitalistic technocrats, bankers, industrialists, and controlled politicians.

I am afraid my friend western civilization got played with the Cold War and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Played, suckered, and entrapped.

[eodnhoj7]

Governments expand and contract. Monarchies, Democracies, Theocracies, Oligarchies come and go but appear in different forms across the world when one disappears for the appearance of another.

[Nausamedu (il_Nulla)]

@MrAuthoritarian

Just remember this, there are no openly Marxist or communist individuals attending the WEF and Davos. They’re all capitalistic technocrats, bankers, industrialists, and controlled politicians.

And there are no “openly” nazi individuals in NATO either, but if you look at the backgrounds of some of them you’d want the entire thing burned to the ground, preferably nuked if at all possible

None of it is about belonging “openly” to a specific ideology.
Its the attitude, behavior and ideological tools which are being used.
I have no illusions that none of these f-s would give half as much of a damn about people than either the soviets or the nazis did. It shows in their attitude crystal clearly what they intend to do and thats gonna be extermination on the long run cause their circles decided long ago that they dont need 10 billion people on this planet.

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Peter_Kropotkin

None of this is actually true, I view all different races and ethnicities of people as human beings where I believe everyone from all backgrounds should have success, prosperity, security, and happiness. As usual you make insane assumptions about me that isn’t even true. As a Buddhist the most important figure in my life was historically Nepalese.

What I do say and I have talked about this numerous times is that it is very isolating, alienating, or a lonely existence living in an area where you’re a white European ethnic minority in the population. In many places of the United States you can go where white Americans are already population minorities. I have lived in several areas like that, it’s not the multiracial utopia you liberals make it out to be. Multiracial and multicultural societies or nations are a lot harder to maintain I would argue.

I have specifically said that there are consequences for neoliberal societies where open borders is the law of the land. You want to call me racist or hateful for merely pointing out those consequences and that’s hilarious.

Also, for the record I don’t see anyone as being superior or inferior. More nonsense from you. I am not a supremacist.

Ultimately I think multiracial or multicultural societies can be mediated if mutualism is present but that also means that white cultural identity needs to be publicly accepted just like all other identities. The liberal disposition of saying white identity isn’t real, valid, or historically relevant isn’t helpful at all.