Uccisore said I should post something here about the problems of Internet Moderation and Authority. I told him that I would make it about Moderation and Authority in general, as the internet shares a lot of real qualities with what we know as ‘real life’. Personally, I’ve found life online to be just as real as real life; some times moreso, because we’re connected almost directly through the mind.
The problem with Authority and Control and Moderation/Mediation arises when people stop caring and trying. I’m going to try not to drag my ideas of religion and God into this; so I’m going to say instead that this comes back around to psychology and basic human nature. At some point in time, there came people who just stopped having that connection with God. Something happened or another that made them lose faith in him; made them question why he would do something and instead of having faith and have faith supply that answer in time if they truly sought it; they turned from that faith and began turning others.
Regardless of if God exists or not; we know this to be true by the stories handed down to us in religion. We see the beginning of it all told with Adam and Eve and then continued on with Cain and Abel when Cain went to create the first societies of men. You see, Adam and Eve couldn’t have been the only people on the Earth, even if they were the only man and woman in Eden. For Cain to have created any size of town or city, Adam and Eve would have either had to fuck like jackrabbits and then mate their own sons with their own daughters, or have Adam be the allfather; therefore there had to have been other men and women. Science proves this with evidence of the cavemen and other variations of humans that we have ascribed, simply, to evolution instead of genetic modification. Both are extremely possible.
But, that’s not what I’m here to talk about. At the point of creating that first city of men; we can only imagine that Adam and Eve had told Cain and Abel stories of Eden while they were growing up. Even if that was just a fantasy, it still galvanized Cain to go out and gather men together after he killed Abel and ‘God’ stopped him from killing himself by telling him to live with his sin and continue learning.
To be able to recreate Eden would have been an impossibility for Cain, though he wouldn’t have known that or even understood it. It was an impossibility for any man of the time. He made promises to the other men he came in contact with; promises of an easier life where they wouldn’t have to work so hard. Promises of a society free from pain and death. Promises of a better future for their children.
Over time, Cain came to realize that he could not fulfill those promises he had so foolishly made. He had to have realized. Given the current nature of government in men, I would have to imagine that he didn’t come clean about it, fearing that they would kill him and fearing what would happen to them if they did, for ‘God’ had said that any man that killed him would face a fate a thousandfold worse than his own.
Whether or not that was true, it’s enough to say that this Cain believed it to be true enough to lie to people. He had to scramble every time to support his lies and he began hurting other people; sending raiding parties out into the world to take things from people so they could continue living peace. He deprived them of their hunting to try to make them farmers or shepherds, because he saw death as bad and killing as wrong, not understanding the bond with nature those people had before he came along.
Due to not being able to hunt, they went on those raiding parties to soothe their need to hunt. What was once noble became twisted as they slaughtered innocents for no reason other than their own selfish nature. Cain came bringing the word of God to them without fully understanding it or himself or why he did what he did to Abel; or why such a God would allow that.
Remember, I’m not speaking as if God exists, though I myself do believe in God. I’m speaking of this story purely from the standpoint of a psychologist and a person who enjoys his history; especially dim remnants of a history that a lot of people don’t even view as history.
Over time we can see the evolution of both government and religion and how they have often conflicted in their beliefs. Religion was widely held by the state and dominated the ‘pagans’, because the ‘pagans’ had not banded together and were seen to be weaker by those who banded together and were sure of their security and safety and the false promises given to them. Once they found out they had been lied to, they were too far gone to even care.
about 2000 years ago came a man from Galilee and he sought to do the impossible and set both the church and the state right, because he did go out into nature and did rekindle that bond with nature that was once felt by the majority of the world that became known as ‘pagans’. Over time, the religion of those who created society knew that it had to adopt the ‘holidays’ of the ‘pagans’ and some of their beliefs to reinforce their strength in this world. And they did so willingly.
When people view the religious crusades in a poor light, this is why. During Jesus’s time, it was getting to be pretty bad and slaves were commonplace; they were setting up stores in their churches devoted to God; they were giving in to all sorts of indulgences that are not bad by themselves, but have a time and place. Nature knows what that time and place is, though. I imagine that when he went through that desert and started getting hungry, he started eating cactus peyote. His battle with the Devil sounds like some fries that I’ve had and the devil’s taunts have sounded very similar to the way I taunt myself in my own head some times. That hyper-critical voice that always finds something wrong with what you do no matter how you do it. ‘well, if you’re such the son of God, then why can’t you turn this stone into a loaf of bread?’
Regardless of if this is the fact or not; Jesus found his strength of will when he realized he just straight-up refused to give in to negativity in this world. He had wandered into that desert to die and by all rights he should have died. He found his will to live that denied his wish for death, which galvanized everything he did after. When we read the bible; handed to us by the society that has stolen every religion from the pagans without understanding it and has given so many promises that it can’t keep because it fails to understand how to keep them; which is through hard work and determination; and we see those missing years of Jesus’ life, we can only assume that he was more like us than we have been told.
And all of this is psychologically grounded in things we can know of people who live in the modern age. Even with society as bloated as it has become, it has taught us a good many things that we wouldn’t have learned otherwise. The problems that it brings are the same problems it has always brought. Only in this day and age are people finally getting fed up with it. Enter the fanboys for God, against God, against government, for government; every single thing you can think of and God aren’t those fanboys just annoying as Hell? They walk and move with confidence while they lack deeper knowledge and understanding of the things they’re infatuated with and they come singing the praises of those things like so many idealistic pups headed for the slaughter.
When the Jews spoke for Christ against the Church and state, they were blamed for his death and it was said that they refused him as their savior; so that the whole world would hate them and not accept their truths. Hitler had it in his mind to destroy every last one of them and he used many for medical experiments. Which, is nothing that no other society hasn’t done; he just got caught at it because he didn’t give a shit about being caught; which is another problem of society: the bad guys have no problem with looking like the good guys just so they can knock out the extremists that ruin it for them and continue taking slices away from the pie.
Certainly, we are neither good or evil and only circumstance and situation and our own choices in perception drives us to be either one or the other while the world around us speaks of balance as it exists between the light and the dark.
These people are intelligent as all Hell and have laid plans to keep in charge of the world while skimming off the top of it and without anyone being the wiser. Every time that someone has stepped up to actually challenge their authority, that person has been killed. Regardless of what people say to the contrary; evidence exists that it is far more than just a conspiracy theory. They are given their own information; in their own schools; given gifts of education and routes to prominence and domination if they have the will to take them.
And a lot of people just think the system works as it should.
My problem rests in the fact that I know better. I have seen human nature firsthand; both in a political scene and in a normal scene. I have seen people destroy me for my lack of being to understand or explain myself and once I began to do that, they found they could no longer destroy me and so got rid of me, instead.
Recently on these forums, I was attacked by someone who carries this ideology with them. Thankfully, this remains a forum that is ran by free-thinkers who carry with them some sense of rational thought. I don’t hold a grudge against them, for they are poorer than me even with all the wealth that they have or may obtain.
The biggest problem that I find; and I could spend days listing problems of the government and every other form of it; is that people stop trying to do things right after having it shoved back in their faces or turned around them; because they lack that determination to see it through to the end. People aren’t taught how to get to know themselves and they aren’t taught how to explain themselves; they aren’t taught what they need to know about the world. People are only being taught what they need to know to keep being slaves who think they’re free.
We’re told not to do certain things. Ever. Why wold those things exist if we weren’t meant to use them? It becomes so much knowing the proper time and place for each thing. Now if the human race was in danger and only one man and one woman existed and they needed to repopulate the Earth, but somehow one of them managed to over-ride their own need to have sex; I could see rape being okay. In the times of cavemen when our speech was more gutteral and we couldn’t explain ourselves as we can in the modern age; I could see rape being okay.
In certain situations in todays world, I’m at the point of seeing killing as being okay. If I had to defend myself properly, or something else, I would. If someone came at me with a knife or a gun, I’d probably do what I could to stop them. If they aimed those things at other people, I would definitely do whatever I could to stop them.
We have this continual dream of freedom and enjoying our lives and we keep seeing it as an impossibility because of how many times we’ve tried and failed throughout history; which has all been because of people giving up too early and lacking the determination to follow a path through to completion. To seek the understanding of themselves and all other people and to actually work to bring us all together instead of further dividing us; because society as it stands only further divides us.
It could be argued that we’d be a lot better off by now without society, but I like to think that we’re a lot better off right now because of society. I still don’t think that makes everything forgiveable. I do think it’s time to stand up and do something about it and keep doing something about it until we can actually rest assured that the fight is over; which, from my experience so far, is never; the fight is never over. It only gets easier with time until we get too complacent in our victories.
The problem our societies has is that those people who run them are either disillusioned or greedy or some other form of insecure or neurotic; trying to make a difference in the world and not understanding how they can make a difference because they don’t understand that it has never been about logic or sense or reason, but about persistence in the face of those things. Persistence of hope and dreaming despite all odds; and therein the victor has already been found and it becomes only a matter of time before this is proven to the entire world, because one has become the stronger of the two for not relaxing in their victory. Whenever they tried to relax in victory, they have seen what it has brought.
Look to the Jews, who fled their home and scattered around the world like lost and lonely pilgrims. They watched and saw what was going on through history. They trained their sons and daughters to be lawyers and bankers and they stocked up their money and they watched and waited for their chance to go back home. They watched and held their breath with every revolution and hoped it would finally be that moment they had waited for. In 1948, right after World War II; they had enough. Persecuted for two thousand years only to be tortured and abused by the Nazi’s and everywhere they went, they found more of the same ridicule and hate. Tell me how wrong I am. You probably grew up in America if you’re reading this. I can’t speak for other countries, but I know that in America; at least the portion I lived in, the word ‘jew’ has often been used as an insult, just like the word ‘gay’.
They stopped waiting for that day to come and finally found their own strength and when they returned home to rebuild Israel in 1948, they were immediately under attack by the armies of at least five different countries. Now, those countries had the run of those sands ever since the jews were made to flee in the night. They searched those sands diligently, looking for some secret that they swore up and down that the Jews had buried there. They found absolutely nothing and when the Jews returned there, they didn’t see it as a people coming home after a long journey through the world. They saw it as being maybe that they missed something, because why would those Jews go back to that desert to live there? It’s their fucking home, man. I have no idea why people can’t get this concept.
I had something like that happen to me in this political game I played for a while. I had a region called The Kingdom of Middle Earth (I’m a lord of the rings fan) and I ruled there as King Aragorn. I didn’t know then as much as I thought I knew then and I really didn’t think that I knew much, so that’s not saying a lot. I made a mistake and handed it over to someone else and when I went to go reclaim it, they wanted to know what made me think I deserved it. I stated that as founder of that Kingdom, it gave me the only right to claim it; but they then claimed that since they there were long enough and more consistently for it to be theirs. This is a common theme in our society because people can’t simply share and share alike, they have to covet what belongs rightfully to another person.
When I asked for it back, they told me they couldn’t trust me and that I would just lead it to ruin. When I was in charge, I lead it to a an era of peace eventually when I took it out of a regional alliance with a corrupted Constitutional Monarchy. Every position I held in that game, I excelled at; and I often lost interest in it and stepped down prematurely and people began to resent me for that; not understanding what else I was going through in my life.
I watched them hold that region and stagnate it; they made it join another alliance of regions when I had wanted it to stand on its own. I finally managed to talk the person into giving it back to me, but only with the help of a friend who was neck-deep in the RP side of the game. I had known before then that it wouldn’t be the same, that I wasn’t going to be able to recreate the great place it once was, and I was having trouble coming up with ideas of how to make it new with the way that world had become.
And, I didn’t get it directly back. The guy who eventually had control over the region; a changing of hands that the person I gave it to failed to inform me of; claimed to have lost the password to it. This was only a day or two after he had been in the controls and had declared my region as a colony of this other region I became aware of because of that. So, I had to let the region completely die; I got the help of a few other friends and we got control over it. I had to wait 30 days for my original founder nation to expire and then make a new one and basically recreate the region with the same name. It was horrible to have to kill it off.
I never did build it up again to what it should have been. The moderators of that game declared me delete on sight and that region now has been dominated by a man that I had met before in the game. They keep it up as tribute to what happens to people like me:
nationstates.net/region=the_ … ddle_earth
They have done nothing to build it up; and the previous inhabitant before I got it back were doing nothing to build it up. They just didn’t like me. They wanted me to be King in name only and help build up the region for them and their alliance of regions and I refused to that because I could see that and with the way they were responding to me to begin with; like petty trolls; really gave me no hope that they would comply. I just wanted my home back.
Now, it is nothing but a standing memory; a ruin of what once was and a reminder of what will never be again, since I am no longer allowed to play that game since I played it too well.
And, I think that is the biggest problem in the world: when people get hurt, they don’t try to understand it, they just try to hurt the other person back without seeing if it was hurt that was necessary. They just don’t want to feel pain and try to avoid it all costs and thus bring a lot of the bullshit we see in this world.
We have a semblance of order and discipline; but we’re not able to actually have order and discipline because we aren’t allowed to be what we should be. These people in charge love their positions, but hate their jobs and so they don’t take time and effort to pay attention to the little details or help the people they claim they want to help. They want to help people their way instead of the way people need to be helped in and this causes all sorts of detriment. They don’t listen to what those people say and they think they know best; just because someone who taught them; somewhere down the line of their family teaching; did know best, but the person it eventually made its way down to did not and failed to understand that what they were doing in their lack of understanding and caring for others beyond pleasing themselves was actually bringing harm to the world. And when people began crying foul, as those people did once upon a time to the people who taught them, they see fit to smack such people down and stuff them in the dirt.
You notice we’re not allowed to really do that anymore.
These people who mimic without understanding, lack the logic and sense and reason to support what they do and so it only ever becomes a shallow mockery of the natural order of the world all while they try to chase their own pleasures and cheat and lie to others in the process of doing so. They are very intelligent at getting around trouble and hard-headed and stubborn to wear people down so they inevitably give in.
And therein is where government again falls apart, because they’re shoving ideas and theories and philosophies down our throats; all these truths and lies combined; without understanding fully a single damn one of them. They play their games of intrigue and scandal and deceit and spies and espionage and think they’re slick with their shit, but a person who watches and knows the signs can see it quite easily.
But their methods fall short of the mark and will always fail considerably after a while because they won’t ever learn new tricks as they try to stick to their shallow mockery of truth and those who reside in truth and love and good things will learn new tricks; often without realizing that they do so.
To summarize, I believe that the problem with these things is human nature and lack of discipline; lack of understanding life; lack of understanding how to find balance in our selves as we’re pushed one way or the other toward an extreme because the middle ground that is put in place by shallow mockery of truth is itself a shallow mockery and we do not feel wholesome while living within its shadow.
The one thing that really scares these people living in shallow mockery is the day that their lies get revealed for what they are, but they have their lies and tricks work so well on so many of even the most intelligent people that they become confident in their tricks and that confidence convinces the weak-minded who are unsure of themselves because of the insecurities they have been given by a broken society and so they don’t know themselves and by the time they do, they run a risk of already being lost to a system they can no longer escape from easily. Especially if they get married and have kids and find responsibilities that they have to take care of.
They fear what will happen to them and their family or friends. It comes back around to fear and too many people live in fear. Fear makes society what it is and fear holds back what should be. Fear of our perception of a truth that never needed to be feared at all; it only needed to be understood.