"The Masses"

From what i’ve seen and experianced,“the masses” as a real social group in society don’t really exist.

It is after all a blanket term referring to a large mass of people, but in the specific sense it’s used by those who use it as a negative or dispariging remark, in my opinion anyway, it is simply their way of dismissing the opinions and views of those who don’t think as they do.

The idea of “the masses” as a buch of mindless sheep is folly the way i see it, as a majority or large percentage of society that is absent minded in formulating their own beliefs, stances and preconceptions.

They may take a stance of “the establishment” or other ideology. But this doesn’t mean the majority of them are absent minded, on the contrary it is the minority of people that fit this stereyotipe everytime i’ve look into it.

It’s pretty easy to prove that the masses exist.

Take the phrase ‘common sense.’ Common sense wouldn’t exist unless enough (a majority) people choose to think in the same way. It’s funny because the masses use it as a positive term, when really it’s negative: common sense is the lowest form of reasoning.

No. You’ll find there is large disagreements among even the closest conspiracy theorists. They don’t call each other sheep/masses/etc because, regardless of whether or not one agrees or disagrees, both can recognize that the other is thinking, instead of just regurgitating.

The establishment line isn’t necessarily incorrect in a logical sense, but it’s necessarily incorrect in a pragmatic sense. That is, 99% of the time the establishment is revealed to be lying, and otherwise acting maliciously to same masses that tout the official line. So, yeah, it usually means thy’re absent minded, not paying attention, or otherwise asleep while awake.

My suggestion, the next time you go up against someone who is prone to view things in terms of the masses is to say something that differentiates yourself from them. That applies to every aspect of life.

A lot of people are caught in a cognitive dissonance.

Obviously no one likes being told they’re ignorant comparative to someone else, but not everyone has the mental fortitude to break out of their established routine so they come here and complain about people who ‘have a superior attitude’ or whatever, when really it just boils down to the fact that people are unwilling to change and learn something new. On the flipside, people like me have no real sanity to speak of, and can pivot mentally on a dime because of extensive practice at doing so. Everyone has their talents and proclivities, and one might argue that using google is just hard for some people.

It’s really quite something to watch, too. Like for example imagine you spent several months of your life researching how to play poker, and then you sit down to talk to someone about poker and it’s clear they’ve played like once for 20 minutes, 20 years ago, and that is the extent of their experience - but they don’t want to view themselves as someone who isn’t good at poker, so in response to every actual fact you know, they respond with an emotional outburst about how (fundamentally) they are smarter than you, and it doesn’t matter what you read, they know why it’s wrong because the problem is with you as a person.

Why do so many conspiracy theorists look down on the masses? Because like I said, almost every person who is still asleep/normal have a reactionary/instinctual response to assume there is a mental defect with the conspiracy theorist. Almost every time. I have ever tested this out with super regular/innocuous stuff, and (some select really dumb) people will deny it just because it’s me saying it. That was an interesting research project… And of course this comes back to the whole key of brainwashing, which is to send people so far down a path that even if they figure out where they are, their emotions will bind their eyes forward, refusing to let them get a good look at where they have just come from.

That is what this all comes down to, is emotional control/mastery.

it’s extremely hard for some side to talk to the other, even about the most basic things, where you try as best you can to keep your cool. It’s really hard. Once you step outside of the peer reviewed system where people can’t just put their hand out to some authority to decide one way or the other for important things, these discussions turn into the most aggressively juvenile content you’ll ever see on a forum full of adults. I kid you not. If you want instant immaturity talk conspiracy with mainstream people, or vice verse. Most conspiracy theorists are just as bad for it. The person who doesn’t know anything gets super pissy, and the person who has spent (maybe too) much time doing the research is met with such a lacuna in the content that they invariably just sum it up with ‘You need to learn more before this can even proceed anywhere’ which is always taken by the other person as yet another direct threat to their intelligence.

And a round and a round we go. It’s really quite brilliant, actually.

For 9/11 for example, they obvioulsy made it so that it’s so obvious to some people that it hurts, on purpose, instead of trying their best to make it look completely real. They know obviously a certain percentage of people will just accept whatever without question, but the free thinkers will have such a hard time dealing with the overt obviousness of it that it invariably leads to insane discussions where the group that just accepts anything is pushed further and further into their position out of spite for the other group who is like ‘What the fuck, this is easy sauce.’ If you don’t believe me, ask yourself why there it’s so polarized. This isn’t like JFK. At this point, even like 10 years later, you either think it was muslims with box cutters, or you know the entire story because you’ve done the research. There is no grey area group, I think because it was planned that way. Looking back knowing what I know, what is how I would plan it. For sure.

Well I wasn’t even speaking about “conspiracy theorists” specifically though “they” do seem fond of the word that and “sheeple”.

But sense you brought it up, what about the whole conspiracy/mainstream deal? I don’t really consider myself either, I mean i’m sure conspiracies do and have occured but under such a perfect organization and over such a longevity seems to every sense of me very implausible.

I remmember getting into that conspiracy mentality a while ago, then I realized how baseless a lot of it was simplified really. No way of falsifiabillity of the conspiracies. Every bad thing happens because of “X”. “You’re an idiot if you believe anything the mainstream believes and also an idiot if you don’t believe everything I believe”. “Something bad will happen on “X” the armaggedon will begin on “X” jesus will return on “X””. Etc. etc. Then nothing happened, over time I came to think these ideas are carried by dissalussioned “masses” that want to feel important, smart and like the’re part of “the resistance” simply by virtue of joining this subculture of conspiracy theorising, saying “Fuck NWO” all from the safety and comfort of their computer chair.

If I may use an allegory from platos cave, those who believe in this may say I exited the cave and then went back or “went back to sleep”. I would claim that those chained and watching the mainstream shadows merely turned their heads and started believing in differant spectres, while I attempt to walk from the cave as i see the light of the sun am being pulled back by both parties each claiming dominion over me. Each too set in their preconceptions to venture with me, but i am not alone.

Now after a while of obsevation i’ve come to the belief that perhaps a majority of it is bogus nonsense but not all of it (just like the mainsteam). Though to avoid arrogance i will admit this as an observation simpy base on my own beliefs.

I mean obviously there’s a reason you believe what you do. I’m not like volchock in simply dismissing that which does not fall within my paradigm of thinking. But you in a way i see as the other extreme. I still recall that time you said philosophy was stupid, that didn’t inspire confidence in me. Though as I said one should not be too attached to their preconceptions (whatever they may be), though that is a philosophical way of self examination and learning.

You follow the occult as well correct? Perhaps thats something else to look into, magic and all that, make my own opinion on it anyway.

Well, I don’t think ‘Philosophy’ is stupid, though I obviously said that sometime previously. It’s just kind of impotent at this point because it’s been hurdled into an academic corner.

I know, my friend.

I don’t practice any of it, but I know all about it.