The Meaning of Life. Does life make sense?

Or you could be asking specifically regarding human life, and then I’d say… lot’s a luck. We’ve become too complex to see things that simply. Thanks gods.

Perhaps that’s a sign that you’re not as intelligent as you think.

I think life can make sense, or can be confusing and senseless. I think there is sense to be found, purpose to be had. But I think that philosophy can obscure things, like the toddler asking “why?” - the sense and purpose is in the concrete and the doing, and not the abstraction and the conceptualisation. In this sense, I may be the opposite to some earlier posters.

Life, our existence, is the given with which we have to learn to cope. We need to think, and think well, to do so. But thinking well is not the purpose of living; living well is the goal of thinking.

I’m saying that no matter how hard you try, you can not enjoy every aspect of life and shouldn’t try to. You can not be happy all the time, you can not have what you want all the time, especially if what you want conflicts with what others want. You can’t even get what you need all the time, which is part of the enjoyment factor.

Certainly we make meaning for ourselves in life but concerning objective meaning or purpose I still stand by that the universe is so very unstable, chaotic, and constantly changing that to postulate one is nonsensical.

It is only your perception that the universe is unstable and chaotic. There is an order there; those traveling their own life through chaos perceive their own order and the order of chaos are all the paths looking chaotic when viewed as a whole instead of perceiving the order that is there. The stability isn’t what it should be, for all of the fighting, all of the misperceptions, etcetera; but it is still far from being wholly unstable.

Of course my answer to the “Purpose of Life” question is the same as always:
MIJOT, Maximum Integral of Joy Over Time.

Provided by the Anentropic Life: Wisely enjoy the pursuit of life’s continuance and the joy never ends.

What if life’s continuance becomes unwise? At what point of pursuing continuance and avoiding the end of your own life do you continue in faulty manners and processes?

Wisdom is defined by the highest purpose. Thus there is never a point where the highest purpose is not wise.

At the point of foolishness. Thus enjoy the pursuit of wisdom.

The highest purpose is not the only purpose that exists, therefore it is not always wise.

Some times the pursuit of foolishness is the pursuit of wisdom. Not often, but some times. And not all of life is enjoyable, much of wisdom is unenjoyable much like how much of anything you learn is unenjoyable until you learn how to apply what you learn in a way that makes it worth learning.

There is order yes but it is constantly shifting, changing, evolving, and mutating that it rightfully can be called chaotic or unstable.

Chaos and order are not mutually exclusive from each other.

There is no singular monolithic objective form of order in existence.

At the point of understanding that it constantly shifts, changes and mutates, you have undermined what you know of chaos and understood the pattern and cycle and order of it. you’re right about the second part, but that is just another paradox that doesn’t destroy reality like people perceive paradoxes to do.

You’re right, but there should be for consistencies sake. It’s like how our systems work in America with everyone having a different policy; a different way of doing things that contrasts and conflicts with each other instead of getting on the same page and reinforcing each other constructively. What we have is an improper and unwanted compromise instead of what we’d rather have and would like more.

The pattern and cycles are never the same or singular hence instability.

Yes but once you understand the patterns of patterns and cycles and the cycles of cycles and patterns, you find stability again and can understand every pattern and cycle and how it breaks down; how to take it apart and put it back together again.

Not when you throw in randomness. Contrary to what you’re saying not every outcome of everything can be predicted, calculated, categorized, and so on because of randomness.

The highest is the one that determines all others, else it isn’t the highest.

And some times black is white.

… or is it?

Yet all you need is to understand and attend to which is when.

Order stems from the understanding of chaos. Affectance Ontology is all about that very thing - the order within the chaos, “the firmament within the clouds” - understanding the noise.

Yes, but order of any kind is not monolithic hence constantly unstable.

Since it is always shifting, changing, and mutating taking snap shots here or there for study isn’t very helpful.

The order of the chaos is very, very, very stable, “anentropic”. Such is what makes up the subatomic particles of which all matter is made. And even when the matter is destroyed, the particles merely move on.

It isn’t that a subatomic particle can’t be destroyed. It is that from pure enough chaos, extremely long term order rises. Higher complex orders are less pure and thus are destroyed more quickly … until they become intelligent. With proper intelligence, the proper degree of chaos is maintained to ensure the proper degree of order is inherent (not merely arranged).

The order that is dictated by the inherent flow of the chaos is the order that cannot perish (SAM, I am).

There is that which can never change. The behavior of chaos is one of those things.

The clever encourage decay so as to fertilize their field from which they harvest their gold - the transmutation of the unwise into golden stability for others.

Describe long term order and proper intelligence.