The nihilistic anarcho primitivist

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The nihilistic anarcho primitivist in my new vision of the extreme post left sees civilization as out of control full of despair, suffering, conflict, enslavement, and hopelessness driving every human being into a state of perpetual captivity where they view the only hope for existential liberation to be with the destruction of that very same civilization. In this case were talking about the destruction and eradication of modern industrial civilization. The primary causes of this perpetual captivity are the advancement of technology towards the future of a technological singularity furthering the distance between ourselves and biological nature in the immersing of an entirely synthetic world. With every advancement of technology by those in positions of power people become even more enslaved to the power structure. This goes directly against the false meta narrative that technology is an instrument of human salvation or creator of social equality. The anarcho primitivist understands this interaction of technology in the human social sphere very well.

Only when modern industrial civilization is destroyed or collapses from its own weight will freedom and liberation reign again. This is the position of anarcho primitivists that separates them from all other anarchists. Until that event horizon takes place we are only left with the haunting ghost of freedom that we all desire to have once again which hasn’t existed on this planet for human beings for quite some time. Genuine freedom, independence, and liberation has been absent of this planet for a very long period of time.

Anarcho primitivists everywhere are accused of being hypocrites promoting their ideas while taking the full advantages of modern technological society, but then once you know that the modern state makes it illegal for anybody to jump off ship or live off of the control grid it’s really not that hard of a position to grasp whatsoever. While in this state of captivity the anarcho primitivist finds all they can do be expressing their views philosophically taking advantage of the enemy’s tools for their own disposal in the struggle of expression. In the eyes of the state, there are only a few places for individuals not willing to conform to its will and that would be homeless shelters, mental psyche wards, or prisons.

For the anarcho primitivist it is either utilize the tools of the very system that oppresses you to promote your message while surviving in this constant state of physical and mental captivity or the path to individual suicide which isn’t much of a choice whatsoever.

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Accept the hypocrisy, there’s nothing wrong with it. The view that hypocrisy is “wrong” is a fallacy anyway.

You do have the choice to leave or live off the grid, many people do and I actually know a couple myself who are off the grid. No taxes, no bills, no government ID, no jobs. It’s possible. It just depends on what your values are. Certainly you might find more value living in the society you detest in order to work against it and drain life from it/take advantages as you are able.

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Those that jump off the control grid don’t stay hidden very long. Been there, done that. In fact you need a extreme insane amount of money to successfully stay off the control grid for very long periods of time to avoid detection which most people don’t have.

Hypocrisy is a inevitable side effect of a existence that despite the promoting of imaginary appearances as existing the complete absence of morality and ethics in this world.

The very existence of hypocrisy negates social morality and ethics as meaningless concepts.

I’ve already mentioned that as the only available recourse for anarcho primitivists.

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Well those I know live on land owned by a family member, they made their own trailer, and farm and fish. I’m not saying they will be able to do it forever, but its worked so far for a few years.

Also if you have survivalist skills there are plenty of mountains and forests in the USA where one might disappear and live simply off the land. But you sacrifice a lot to do that, and eventually you might get caught or come back for medical care or some other reason.

I actually have this idea that a very large wilderness area needs to be designated a no-government zone and people can go live there in anarchy or whatever they want, no government, no laws, no police or other services. I’d be very interested to see what happened over time to such a place. At least there could be the option, although society as it is today would never allow such a thing.

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This is what happens when people try to live off the control grid.

As I said before, there is only three places for designation of all the people who won’t go along with the general state of captivity. Prisons, psyche wards, and homeless shelters. You’re not allowed any other choices.

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Yeah, I’m under no illusions about how society views it.

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Whatever. I heard this before from someone called Rousseau. He was also a fucking pussy.

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Since were at it, and as things appear, we are headed toward a new scheme of things, let’s indulge ourselves in a bit of travel. I have seen other places, where primitism is literally a state of being, a steady state. Here some organized group may go into an orphanage and “adopt” a baby, and Tyrannus this is for real, cut the baby’s extremities off, and put the baby out on the squalor of the streets, for the purpose of making some money. Of course locals are so used to it, they will pass by. A few torust’s in their horror will oblige, and suddenly out of no where the money disappears.

The point being made is this, as I totally agree with the above points made, internationalisation aka new world order has gotten us into this. However with a caveat, which I will touch upon in a moment.

When I was growing up things were different from various points of view, and being used to hardship, insanity, and police brutality didn’t have to mask the fact that there was less crime, less need of prisons, asylums. People could afford more heart and what respectable family would dare act as if they cared little for their black sheep, unfortunate members. What would their Levittown neighbours say if word got around?

 Now, you may live somewhere for years and years without your neighbour so much as look at you.

 The point is, the power movers and shakers are looking around and saying, well how can we have a new world order if things can't be equaized across the board?

The ultimate question world wide is really not the question of the veritable outcome of this or that form of economic system, based on relative values of complex regional inter relations, but on the facts.

And what do these facts consist of? The degree of variability within a modicum of free fall which is allowable within the givens of free enterprise.

Reagenomics payed dearly for de regulation, and the great recession is only the tip of the iceberg, as far as public knowledge of it is concerned.  The debt incurred, is both the huge and some say irretrievable sums generated simply by vast printing of base less money, and the personal debt owed to so many young people of our generations, who are pushed into intolerable positions of powerlessness and hopelessness.

This dire view has a flip side, more horrendous than the above description which gives some rationale to the method of the madness.
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Don’t forget the FEMA camps - no laws for THEM, no rights at all for you. You simply disappear. SC is instituting them now from what I hear, “illegal to be homeless”.
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The flip side is, that had it not been for the projected inter nationalism of vested interests, which in fact started by such as HG WELLS and George Orwell, and instituted by groups such as the Club of Rome, the world would have been pushed to nuclear annihilation right around the 80’s, at a time when the two veritable powers of the USSR and the US got down to brass tacks, and probably did a test run of how things would go in the event of confrontation by use of simulated war games. The results were probably catastrophic, and hence for economic and political gains, the detante was established, and the socio-economic left in free fall.

I give the above not in furtherance of any partiality whatever, in terms of pushing values where the above listed facts which communist philosophers advocated had formal conceptual standing, as opposed to the material, value laden concepts,

There seems no solution either on the personal or social level at this point. But what remains are huge amounts of debt. I was in Fema during the carter administration, I had no problem with my assignment of cleaning parks, however short lived that was. All the programs from johnston’s great society on were failures, not because any factual misreading of social/personal misjudgement, but because the problems of value and worth became anathema to any progress on social scales.