If the material world is all there is, without a supernatural continuation of the self, then we are finite and the only logical response to a finite existence is to cut to the chase and self-annihilate.
Please give a logical argument for why the Atheist should choose life. Please do not confuse asking with telling. Please do not use fallacies of logic / reason.
Maybe they’re just… enjoying their life? Why would you cut something you like short just because there’s an end to it?
Obviously l’ve anticipated that reply, so if you want to debate then do so. The debate is not this thread but the actual debate.
I don’t think there’s anything to debate with that. It’s just simply the case. Some people enjoy their lives. There’s no reason why they would want to cut that short.
Living for pleasure is illogical if this life is all there is, because pleasure will inevitably end thus it is futile. Pleasure is by definition good, but … l will save the rest for whoever actually wants to debate.
If anybody thinks this will be a straightforward matter then they will surely be able to make a fool of me in this debate.
Don’t want to make a fool of me, too noble for that? Hey it’s okay, go for it, l insist.
You seem to not understand what debate means. If someone says life is meaningful to him it is invalid to simply deny this. You’ve already been proven wrong, you’ve already lost the debate.
Enjoyment of life is broader than pleasure, in the sense that you mean pleasure (fucking like rats in drain pipes). It can mean human love, in a sense you seem to be entirely ignorant of. It can mean creation. One day of love and one act of creation in this world are worth more than a million of your slavish eternities.
In fact, acts of true love and creation are eternal.
None of us chose life. We are engineered by nature to preserve our own life.
BUT. Religions which promise heaven encourage people to wash their hands of this life.
I know when I was religious I could not wait to die, and I’ve know expremely religious people praying for judgement day and the “rapture”.
SO, your question is meaningless that the thread is a waste of space
@Jakob I am unsure why you are talking about rats copulating in drainpipes and l’m sure rats do not copulate in drainpipes.
Also l’m unsure why you have dissolved into abuse. I put it to you that you have zero counterarguments and you know you’ll be debunked if you take me on in this debate. You are scared and therefore you will try to derail by debating about the debate. You think l haven’t experienced this before? They always debate about the debate, rather than engage in the debate. Then the threadlock demands increase, and the ban requests.
@Sculptor I put it to you that you have zero counterarguments and you know you’ll be debunked if you take me on in this debate. You are scared and therefore you will try to derail by debating about the debate. You think l haven’t experienced this before? They always debate about the debate, rather than engage in the debate. Then the threadlock demands increase, and the ban requests.
The next step after the debate challenge is to accept the debate on the basis of the challenge. If it is easy to debunk then the debate will be easy.
The only reason you are engaging me further but NOT accepting the challenge is because you are scared. This is predictable and funny.
@Jakob frankly l don’t consider you a good candidate for debate. I swear to God l don’t mean this as an insult but you lack sentience.
You seem confused and lack the capacity / will to reason.
If you want to debate, you will have to read up on fallacies of logic and reason FIRST. Please.
And don’t use f-words.
I hereby officially perform the CHICKEN DANCE in defiance of those that would rather debate the debate, than, you know, actually formally debate.
Bock. Bock. Bockaaa.
Now PM a moderator. Request threadlock. Point out l am the worst abuser ever known, and things were okay before l came. Advise a sitewide omnimaxi ban.
Anything but engage in a fair, formalised debate on a key topic where you know you will lose.
Go ahead and give it your best shot.
But at the moment I’ve seen nothing tbat respembles an argument so far.
All I see is you complaining.
So , tell me, what’s on your mind?
I would not know how, since I have not, and would never do that.
You will probably dissapoint me in debate but if you are genuinely interested, what is on my mind is in the OP. Accept the debate?
What is your position.
You have not begun to support your wild assertion that atheism is a logical route to suicide.
Atheism is no kind of cult in any sense, since it has no creed, not belief.
If you want respect, stop “Bocking” like a chicken and respond to my comment.
Of run away Chickin lIckin in case the sky falls on your head
My position is obvious. That the logical conclusion of Atheism is immediate suicide without dilly dallying.
How so??
Will you accept the challenge? It should be oh so easy.
Polite reminder: