Unfortunately some people will never get even half way to understanding the debate, or they understand it and are scared of it, hence these poor quality replies.
I have shown you that your assumption is wrong. We donât choose life; we find ourselves in it, and I donât see millions of atheists committing suicide, even if there is a meaning crisis. The problem is that people like you, with your aggressive proselytising, claim that your monotheism is superior, whereas for many people, it is this exclusivity that has brought so much harm to the world.
Before the Muslims gained a foothold in Europe, it was Christianity that raged and Catholics and Protestants killed each other (and Jews). Now, we have the competition between Sunni and Shia, but also the extremist stance in opposition to âChristianâ nationalism. The world is reeling under these supremacist ideologies, and the insecurity grows.
Atheism is, in many cases, a reaction to this madness, although humanity needs something to orientate themselves on and Humanism, meaning the development of human virtue in all its forms, to its fullest extent, is what many people adopt, even if loosely. This is what you call âatheism,â much like you might say that the fear of a battered wife is âbiasâ against the perpetrator.
Until you understand that the reaction to visible violence and oppression is horror, which we are also seeing in the protests against Zionist atrocities, you will not be able to simply âconvinceâ people that your religion is in any way superior, but instead, you will bring contempt upon yourself. So back off!
KINDNESS
by Naomi Shihab Nye
Before you know what kindness really is
you must lose things,
feel the future dissolve in a moment
like salt in a weakened broth.
What you held in your hand,
what you counted and carefully saved,
all this must go so you know
how desolate the landscape can be
between the regions of kindness.
How you ride and ride
thinking the bus will never stop,
the passengers eating maize and chicken
will stare out the window forever.
Before you learn the tender gravity of kindness,
you must travel where the Indian in a white poncho
lies dead by the side of the road.
You must see how this could be you,
how he too was someone
who journeyed through the night with plans
and the simple breath that kept him alive.
Before you know kindness as the deepest thing inside,
you must know sorrow as the other deepest thing.
You must wake up with sorrow.
You must speak to it till your voice
catches the thread of all sorrows
and you see the size of the cloth.
Then it is only kindness that makes sense anymore,
only kindness that ties your shoes
and sends you out into the day to mail letters and purchase bread,
only kindness that raises its head
from the crowd of the world to say
It is I you have been looking for,
and then goes with you everywhere
like a shadow or a friend.
Kindly do not use this thread to debate, this is only a challenge thread. I have said this before. If you have a point then make it in the debate. if you think my argument is weak then it should be no problem. There will be no trickery from me, as in my faith Sophistry is considered a form of sorcery and moreover l have made it clear that l forbid logical fallacies (= logical and reasoning fallacies both). There only remains a superstitious fear of me. Either debate or leave in peace, please.
There have been 64 entries here. It doesnât look like anyone is prepared to debate with you, even though Felix tried. It is futile, because debate only provides a âwinnerâ and division, but not truth, beauty, unity, and goodness, much less love.
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Kindly do not use this thread to debate, this is only a challenge thread. I have said this before. If you have a point then make it in the debate. if you think my argument is weak then it should be no problem. There will be no trickery from me, as in my faith Sophistry is considered a form of sorcery and moreover l have made it clear that l forbid logical fallacies (= logical and reasoning fallacies both). There only remains a superstitious fear of me. Either debate or leave in peace, please.
For me, and I suspect many, what youâre calling fear is more aptly described by this iconic piece of advice:
Never play chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over.
Then shits all over the board.
Then struts around like it won.
Perhaps it is fear, but the fear is that youâre a pigeon. The way youâve been writing in this thread seems very pigeon-like. You present yourself like a person all to eager to shit all over the board and then strut around like you won, and people just arenât interested in that.
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This is pure ad hominem, you are the ringleader of the derailing of this thread, right from the start, either overtly, as here, or by dogwhistle, as per the post where you tried to make out l was Big Brother.
Kindly do not use this thread to debate, this is only a challenge thread. I have said this before. If you have a point then make it in the debate. if you think my argument is weak then it should be no problem. There will be no trickery from me, as in my faith Sophistry is considered a form of sorcery and moreover l have made it clear that l forbid logical fallacies (= logical and reasoning fallacies both). There only remains a superstitious fear of me. Either debate or leave in peace, please.
Disgustring ad hominem, after you supposedly left in âpeaceâ
If youâre going to talk about everyone else having fear, I get to talk about what that fear is. You didnât have to say that.
You are abusive and have been working to derail the debate from your first post here. You have now broken the site rules and thus damaged the platform itself in your rage and terror. Please leave me alone.
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Thatâs precisely the kind of manipulations I would expect to arise in a so called âformal debateâ with you.
I never formally invited you to debate. You are bad quality, please: leave me in peace.
These kinds of manipulations. The ad hominems followed by an intense sense of victimhood.
I remember being a kid in school, and some kid started punching me, and when I defended myself he cried and said stop hitting me. I found that to be an intensely confusing experience then, but I get it now.
You donât get to decide who posts here buddy. And you arenât a victim, your cries will go unheard.
Then I suggest you leave us in peace!
I have told you why I wonât debate, and your insistence upon debating shows that you are only interested in âwinningâ a discussion, whatever that finally means.
The exchange of ideas has been more fruitful, but to do that, you must put aside you claims of exclusivity, which you are not prepared to do.
This is my debate challenge thread. You arrived here. You are incontinent in your rage. Please, control yourself. Peace 
You are out of control. These words of yours are pure malice. The debate topic unsettles you to the core. A man of reason would just get on with the debate.
I donât like your nasty style and l donât invite you to any debate with me. Please control yourself. Peace
Note that @Bob and @Flannel_Jesus (neither of whom were actually invited to the debate) are now rapidly replying trying to incite an outraged response, so that @Flannel_Jesus can then shut down (censor) the debate.
Thereâs nothing to shut down or censor.
You decided you wanted to talk about the psychology of other people. You thus invited them to clarify their psychological state. If you want to tell me Iâm afraid, Iâm going to talk about if Iâm afraid and what Iâm afraid of.
You brought that conversation into existence, and then decided you were a victim because people responded to it.
You donât have to talk about other peoples psychologies at all. You know that, right? You could just⌠not. But once you do, YOUâRE not the victim. Stop crying please.
Nothing is getting shut down or censored. Youâre just whining.
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I am old but not incontinent (if you know what that means), and since when has pointing out that you are wrong in your proposition from the outset ever ârageâ?