The Oppressed

In the world today there exists an endless amount of groupings of people from typical stereotypes to nationality and race to rich and poor. These groups and people live more or less (less if you ask me) in harmony trudging through life blindly. However, there are always groups living in ever present oppression. My question is this; Which group of people do you think have been the most oppressed throughout recorded history? and also Which group do you think is the most oppressed today?

Most people would respond based on their culturally influences. The jews, brownies( :smiley: ), arabs, the irish, the poor, etc. But perhaps there is a group much larger than any of these that is constantly overlooked. Bet you can’t think of it. “Whats your take?” :smiley:

Without a doubt, Christians and Jews are the most oppressed people in history. This is true even today.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. – Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:11-12)

So sure? If you ever happen to look in an atlas of religions you’ll find the Americas, Australia, all of Europe, most of Russia and the southern half of Africa dominanted by the 3 major denominations of Christianity: Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox. The Jews, being a much smaller group, while shunned in the Arab world and unwilling to enter the Orient are welcomed in the Americas, Western Europe, the Oceania and Russia.

No where will you find though, a book on the oppression of children and those considered “not of age.”

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I agree with this. When I was 15 years old I was furious about age discrimination and I promised myself I would never forget it. I haven’t. Not only are young people oppressed and disenfranchised but there is an abortion Holocaust taking place.

I want to resurrect this topic and ask, for each one:

Who is not oppressed?

Nobody, so it’s a meaningless question. The question is: what kind of oppressions… and which groups suffer what kinds of oppressions.

If you have a substantial group of people sharing a kind of oppression that is an effect of another group that, incidentally, isn’t suffering that kind of oppression, you then have cause to draw attention to oppression and aren’t just complaining and re-running vague philosophical classics.

Indigenous people and the Roma.

All of human history is an ongoing conspiracy of those with power constantly plotting against and exploiting those without power.

Slaves rebelling against the master class.

All of human history is a structural and architectural conflict of interactive social power dynamics.

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But who are not oppressed tho?

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pseudoai

But who are not oppressed tho?

By definition anyone who is not a person or group subjected to prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control. So, someone or a group may have experienced moments of ‘being oppressed’ but not a sustained pattern. And this oppression is coming either directly from other people or from a system those other people have created or sustained.

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Answer your question:
The pioneers were oppressed, from Socrates, Jesus, Nietzsche, and myself.
Their story is already known to everyone, let me talk about my story.
I have been unemployed for 18 years and have claimed to be a genius scientist for 15 years. Although my theory ‘The Three Principles of Happiness’ (Fifth Edition) reconstructs ethics, game theory, political philosophy, and jurisprudence. But no one paid attention to me, no one invited me to work, and I have been living a precarious life.

Indigenous or aborigines.

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Allow me to set you free from your oppression. Tell me about your theory, “The Three Principles of Happiness”.

Well, who in particular? What percentage of society is not oppressed, for example? Which persons in particular? How can they know they are not oppressed?

Some significant part of the wealthy elites. But I don’t know numbers. Quite potentially even going pretty far down the class scale there are people who have met very little oppression. But I don’t know. I’d have to follow them around like I as an anthropologist.

How can they know? They can do much of what they want without meeting people or organizations who stop them for non-legal or unfair reasons. Certainly some at the top can’t be stopped from pretty much doing what they like. They may well have to avoid doing certaint things publically, but if they want to eat human flesh, they can. They want to see snuff films, they can. They want to be pedophiles, they can. So, they know. Of course a lot of very entitled people think they are just so hassled. But that’s different from oppression.

imageThats one hell of a thread necro.

Holy hell this is a nonsensically broad question my dude. Our recorded history is 3500-5000 years at best.
From that time period, humanity has only been at peace for like 200 years.
So if you ask a question that broad you will only call for the worst type of beauty competition in existence.

Especially when “oppression” can change in less than a generation and oppressors can become the oppressed.

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What if they want not to die?

Do you think the not-oppressed know they are not-oppressed? Are we not-oppressed? I bet we are. Or is oppression a spectrum?

I would guess most don’t want to do. What if they want not to die?

Some of them sure. I think there are people people who see themselves as winners in relation to other humans.

I think we are heading into a time where the majority of humans will be oppressed, perhaps already are. I suppose I am thinking primarily of the West. I am not sure most realize this, even as they work harder to get the same things they got for less work and have more stress. The tools are getting more subtle also. People are being dehumanized, trained to think there are merely surfaces - just to toss out 1 aspect.

That such would be much of what they want, and they are not able to

How can we know if that is the case?

Sure, but that’s not being oppressed because of the group your in. People who can’t fly don’t meet the criteria for being oppressed. It has an interpersonal aspect. Or inter-groupal.

Depends how we define know.