The Possibility of an AFTERLIFE

Back again (briefly).

I lost my mother August 16th, 2015, and aside from everything else that happens outwardly and inwardly during such a time, my philosophical thought went into overdrive, seeking to solve the mystery, if there is one, of what happens to consciousness upon what we call and infer to be physical or bodily death. The correct answer, from an empirical standpoint is that we simply don’t know, as we have not yet died. For our side of things, there is only imagination, fiction, and logical inference given the very existence of consciousness and its lack of relation to that which is not consciousness, which we, as beings composed merely of our own experience, cannot even imagine, as when we use imagination we must use consciousness (one’s own experience) to attempt to imagine something that is not one’s consciousness. It simply cannot be done. What follows, then, is my imaginary fiction of what an Afterlife, if one exists, might be like, given my supra-Christian belief. It is merely a possibility, and not an arrogant, unfounded assertion of that which none of us can be certain, given our status in this “Matrix” of a particular world of a particular set of experience.

It’s good to be back, albeit only intermittently (I’ll probably disappear again for another few months), as I am working on my last and final book, of which the following is merely the fourth chapter.

Phenomenal Graffiti

I’m very sorry to hear of your loss.

(An obesrvation: your post is very beautiful, but hard to read and impossible to quote in replies)

@Only Humean:

Thanks you for your condolence.

As for the graphics of the posts, this was a concern. For earlier chapters, I did not use the italics font, so the text should be more clear.

PG

Sorry for your loss.

The way I see it is that, the mind is in superposition [hence it sees colours and light which don’t exist in the brain directly i.e. in superposition] and at the core there is going to be something very simple occurring. Lets imagine a given rudimentary life-form [if we go human – dog – mouse etc, and ask where does consciousness stop], and we’d expect something simple to be occurring for its life/death scenario. If we take that external [to the world] perspective, its mind being already in superposition, so at death the link is cut between that and its conscious experience as it was being fed by physical information.

Its an old adage, but surely that’s a bit like a radio simply being switched off? The radio channel is still there, but its medium is not.

The next question for me, concerns whether or not that connects up with another incarnation? Given there is something by which a consciousness/mind/soul connects up in the first place, then if true we can argue that that is the reason why it will connect again. Its probably as simple as magnets at base, no? I don’t mean that it is electromagnetism, there are other forms of realities [I don’t want to say ‘energies’ because they are not physical] between the universe and infinity.

I can sympathize with the logic, and thank you for the condolence.

Consciousness is fundamentally (and unambiguously, according to David Chalmers)–experience or the fact or act of experiencing and that which one is experiencing at any given moment (if one is not currently in the non-state of dreamless sleep, if dreamless sleep exists).

That is a given that (I hope) no one will or can deny and it is the base of operations of our knowledge of existence and the world.

Moving from this base, things can go a lot of ways. One common way is to say that one’s experience is a representation or ‘copy’ or ‘mimicking’ of something in the external world that corresponds to the things a person experiences, and further, that this external thing causes the representation of itself in the person’s consciousness. For example, a chair in the external world causes the experience of chairs in the mind or percept of a conscious being.

Without going too far into it, I merely question if the external object and event consists of experience itself, as it is said to produce experience and I deny that experience can be derived from something that is not experience or experience-substance. We can’t see and thus cannot experience what’s going on either way, so the point is moot and it cannot be demonstrated or proven that there are no distal objects and that there are only percepts (i.e. there is no external chair, experience-substance merely makes up the world, that is only the person and its particular set of current experience without an external analog). One can only agree to disagree.

If I play Devil’s advocate and believe in the existence of the physical and non-physical reality, then yes, death is merely a shutting off of the radio or the medium by which the external world communicates to the internal world that is the consciousness and particular experience of a particular person. I deny, however, that things come into existence from previous nonexistence or that things go out of existence and become nonexistent, so the consciousness of the person, to me, continues on in some form. We can only speculate and have faith (if one beliefs in a particular speculation) that the external fact is true.

PG.

I think there are only three things; qualities, behaviours [time/patterns] and a space in which they dwell. The problem with the secular view is that they are trying to tell us that we exist in behaviours [a product of brain function], but have no quality of our own.

There is something about all existent things which inherit the property of communication. I don’t know what that communicative something is, but we do know that all forms of energy and info are interchangeable. I would go on to say that a property of interchange between informations are themselves information, but of another non-physical kind. Either way everything in the universe is communicating with everything else.

Ergo, the experiencer is a conscious quality which experiences such an exchange of information.

We see, because the ‘chair’ info is being communicated to your brain ~ an instrument, which mimics that derivative information, and forms a rolling image of the world which the experiencer also experiences [i.e. as well as other sensory data].

The soul surely has the ability to commune with the body? otherwise you wouldn’t be able to experience info!

it is such things which gives me hope that consciousness is both a produced thing ~ by the instrument of the brain, but the experiencing entity/quality has the possibility of connecting to another brain and attaining its info.

Indeed I expect future technology to give us the ability to do that whilst still alive.

I think a thing or quality can move in and out of metaposition [or superposition for physical things]. So perhaps its more that reality is both an ocean and the waves passing through it, rather than non-existence not existing. Naturally in literal terms that would be true, but the universe was infinite at least in the beginning, and so reality is infinite. There is a large chunk of abstracts between the physical world and emptiness, but even emptiness is real [a quality].

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In the infinity of 4 Evers , I can think a few anologies.

A Chinaman of great repute long time ago in the Ming Dynasty, that emperor loved to play chess.
So, he found one clever player, and spent years and years playing a game. The clever man won, and the prize promised was anything he wished.

The clever man chose one grain of rice placed upon the first of the 64 shares of the chess board.

The emperor thought that the clever man was not clever at all, at least in his choice of a prize, and was at once releived and disappointed on his choice.

But then: the clever man added that in every other square, the grain of rice should be doubled. So 2 grains in the second square, 4 in the next, and so on.

The emperor ordered his servant to oblige to this strange request and retired for the night.

In the morning, a disheveled servant came to the emperor, begging his pardon, but telling the emperor that all the rice in China would not suffice to fill the order.

Another analogy of infinity:

Every man is his own God in his own peculiar universe.

The clever man who was a middle aged wisard and mystic, told his mom not to fear the universe as she lay on her deathbed, for the following :

Since the beginning of all beginnings, 2 people one man one woman had two kids.And those two kids had two, and each of those pairs had two. In the end of time, the end of which signaled another beginning and end, each of the original man and woman had an infinite number of progeny, each became a god, fir beating a universe of people. Every one, had the whole world in his hand, and was a god of his own universe. An infinity of eternal universes thus, how conceivable and preposterous as an infinite series of turtles one on top of the other.

The gaps, the deaths, are only perceptions of simulated cracks, bursting through as a sudden explosion of burning flame, and sulphur, which after all the ash is settled, again reforms into other alchemical compounds.

Every man becomes his own father, son and Holy Ghost, in the behemoth of re-creation.

Amen.

That kinda communises the whole thing, which is how I see it too. …except the being a god part lol

I simply cannot imagine most people are sentient.

Because I understand their thought processes, I toyed with their personas for a few minutes, and got bored being them.
I doubt their minds are even capable of sustaining consciousness, they have 1 minute personas.

Consciousness is bounded in my body.

I am not my body nor my brain I am the spiritual essence.

At this point my brain and body are irrelevant because my moments are fleeting They are simply tools to communicate with this species so I can attempt to make a better home (the dna machine, removing bad entities, etc.)

Once the bounds of my body are broken my essense will expand and Passage of Time will increase (no limiter, coma theory) This is why the U is shaped like a Brain because it is although it is not the same performance as a human brain (much slower connectivity between sectors, chaotic, open and less unity.)

The original question is, why did my consciousness end up bounded inside this brain (because I am a Top Level Entity)
But the second question is
Will O become bounded into the U’s brain or some random human’s brain (Question being, can the U’s brain even bind consciousness.)