From the movie Ghost Dog
Eh? Nietzsche would have hated the Samurai: Such little room for improvement!
If this went right over your head, do some research on what Nietzsche said about masks and the superficiality of the Greeks.
The samurai were dogs of whatever shogunate authority that reigned.
I have more respect historically for the Japanese peasant Buddhist monk warriors or the ninja shinobi that made the samurai piss their pants at night.
Only the ronin samurai that later became ninja shinobi or opportunistic mercenaries themselves do I respect historically for that particular region of the world.
At any rate I respect the woad warriors or the vicious beserkers of my own culture more than anything in global history.
For me the assassin, thief, mercenary, criminal, rebel guerilla, or pirate is Nietzschean by my own interpretations. All of them are purely individualized.
The ubermensch has no place for government supporting lap dogs who are whipped into serving their insulated masters. They are only well financed slaves who fight for their masters whims than that of warriors.
No warrior, monk or assassin, ever had the battle discipline of a Samurai… Except perhaps the Aztecs.
You cannot compare a modern slave soldier who works for money or ideology or adrenaline, to a samurai who faught only to die at the service of a single human being. Of course, I have no doubt that even today, and even among the soldiers of the US armed forces, there remain samurai.
I agree.
There is a Japanese story of a Buddhist warrior monk that stood alone facing two hundred arrows coming his way til death rather than retreat. Keep in mind they wore little to no armour at all in comparison to the samurai.
A samurai would of ran away in combat for all their talk of total obedience to their vassal lords.
At any rate ninja shinobi killed samurai for sport.
Even when later on a Japanese emperor gave the approval of shutting down the ninja shinobi strongholds of Iga or Koga the ninja shinobi gave them a run for their money before becoming eradicated where even afterwards they were still employed by the shogunate.
Aztec jaguar warriors are a completely different story.
Based on your behavior and sensibilities, I’d say your respect is worth less than the Dirt on the bottom of my Boot, wait…is that dirt?
Whatever punk…
Yeah, I guess Samurai commited Seppuku beacause they were afraid of dying huh? You’ve aloud you hate for government to completely warp your mind.
Seppuku or ritualized suicide to that of a master overlord is the ultimate form of slavery.
Does not become any more obvious than that.
At least the ninja shinobi knew how to retreat to fight again later.
I never really could understand the Asian sense of honor by that of ritualized suicide.
Men could commit Seppuku for a myriad of reasons, the first Seppuku was basically a “fuck you” to the men that were trying to kill this Samurai, he wouldn’t give them the satisfaction, but to prove he wasn’t killing himself out of cowardice he stuck his short sword in his gut and cut his belly apart to maximize pain. Brutal Stuff, after that it became “thee” way for a Samurai to kill himself.
So it’s okay if the Ninja runs away? Isn’t that a double standard?
Ninjas were killers though, not warriors.
Killing yourself seems pretty lame to me.
What is the difference between a killer and warrior again?
If the lords did order them to retreat, you can bet your ass that they would instantly ask permission to perform ritual suicide.
Getting slain by a storm of arrows would be one of the most beautiful things (not deaths, mind you, but things in total) that could happen in the samurai mind. I bet the samurai told that story of the monk to the young samurai to shame them.
Samurais had the uncanny ability to justify existence, not because of their goals, but because of their methods.
If you believe in something greater than yourself, you are being manipulated… But if you are a samurai, you elevate submission above the free actions of almost any other human.
The difference between a killer and a warrior:
A killer hates an enemy.
A warrior loves a craft.
Thats an interesting view.
What I was noting was simply their occupations, Ninjas kill, Samurai fight in Wars.
But to go more into it a Warriors life is dedicated to their skill in the Art of war, and of course the Resolute acceptance of death.
No difference. A killer must perfect their craft to be successful.
Assassins risk nothing less than death either.
Nothing worse than a captured assassin.
There is a difference. It is not the same to kill out of hate than to kill out of love. Fear and mastery.
The samurai have given us much because of their love of the way, which is the love of battle and, of course, the Resoulte acceptance of death.
One movement, one kill. And, hopefully, someone cuts your head off.
A samurai doesn’t risk death; he seeks it. The risk is to die after the last battle has been faught, in one’s armchair or some such.
I forgot to mention that I think infiltrated spies are Nietzschean.
Nothing more profitable than being a double agent working for yourself so long as you do not get caught.
History is full of infamous infiltrative double agent spies playing both sides as fools.
A spy is only Nietzschean if being a spy is the ultimate way for the person’s power to will itself.
Love is a battlefield my friend and is no less discriminate than hate.
If one seeks death and suicide then to me they are fools.