That is precisely where you are getting it slightly wrong.
Numbers do not create the fabric of the reality. Yes, they may represent the fabric of the reality. And, there is huge difference between the two. One is reality and second is its expression/representation.
Maths is merely a language for counting/calculation, nothing else, in the same way our spoken languages are for our thoughts. Our languages cannot create our thoughts. It has be other way around.
You need to remember this difference all the time.
You may be right or wrong in your speculations/calculations, i am not commenting on that. I am merely addressing the basic philosophical question.
Numbers are a system which is self-enclosed, meaning that the system itself is always coherent so long as it is utilized sensibly. The only way a number can be ‘wrong’ is if it is attributed to something with a value better represented by a different number. But numbers themselves are incapable of telling us anything at all because it is only the process of attributing numerical values to real world phenomena which makes use of numbers.
Imagine one dog, one tree and one idiot. The number one here is used to quantify three entirely different things proving that the number in itself is totally meaningless. Numbers only create generalized values and allow us to explore nature in a more standardized way. Consider another idiot arrives on the scene. Now there are two idiots. But wait: these two idiots are DIFFERENT on a genetic, molecular, energetic and physical level. We can say that there are two idiots because it is their idiocy being quantified but here we see that numbers only work when dealing with generalizations. They might be equally idiotic, but these two idiots are not exactly equal. Similar for two trees if one is a Yew and the other is Oak or two dogs when one is a Doberman and the other is a Poodle.
Numbers were created by attributing value to real world objects in this manner. This is why Zero came much later being that no identifiable object is a zero but it creates a more stable numerical language which can then be used to explore nature in an abstract or theoretical sense. It allows us to model reality by attributing value to it’s constituent parts BUT, considering all valuation involves a generalization and that man’s models are never truly representative of the phenomena which we seek to define and explore, numbers have a limited use. Given the self-enclosed nature of numbers, and the organic world which we sought to define (originally on the physical level and now, increasingly, on the abstract and theoretical level) which lead to their creation, AS WELL AS the organic human brain from which numbers emerged, it is not in the least bit surprising that adding numerical values to organic phenomena results in clearly identifiable patterns. This happens because organisms capable of reproducing themselves, and which are subject to selection pressures, have only remained viable and useful if they are efficient and well ordered. As time goes on, complexity increases based upon this foundational ordering principle eventually resulting in mammals and later humans who are capable of self-consciousness (to [extremely!!] varying degrees).
To put it more simply: of course the self-enclosed numerical system which allows us to quantify the organic world and which emerged from our organic brains finds patterns in an organic natural world DUHH!!! - that is the whole fucking point of numbers bro. Saying that numbers alone, which have not been attributed to anything in reality (i.e. which are not actively being used to value/quantify some element of the natural world), create patterns when manipulated is to totally misuse numbers themselves.
Another example with spoken, non-mathematical language. Squid is a word relating to a type of organism. The linguistic equivalent of your numerical escapades would be something like: ‘look guys! squid = quids = u-diqs = i-duqs!! Can’t you see?!?!’ The utility of the language itself (allowing information to be standardized and related to others) is lost because the word now no longer relates to an actual thing but rather has taken on a useless, solipsistic meaning with no reference points in the real world and now has only the infinitely malleable and useless properties of uncoordinated and misused symbols. Symbols which don’t symbolize anything.
Well if it makes you feel better, I’m not using mental abstractions. I actually work with the numbers of the Universe. I don’t work with the frozen-in-time numbers you see at school. I deal with numbers that revolve around each other and behave like evolution.
There are numbers you see at school; basic formulas that are based on mental abstractions.
Then there are these numbers:
The ones I work with. The ones that created the very fabric of reality.
The numbers in blue are mathematically connected to the molecular structure of water.
The numbers in pink are mathematically connected to our “bones” and “teeth”.
Well, you asked for it. How about… a Herd of 4’s instead?
2.93 x 1.618 = 474.074
1.758 x 1.618 = 2.844444
I like how you’re still thinking I believe numbers are floating around as we see them as symbols. Are you done being a fool? Or can you stop wasting my time?
Let’s use us two for an example.
We aren’t 1’s, we have a different form.
We use 1’s to describe the individual “count”.
Now can you stop throwing a fit?
Here’s an example, one may use “0” to describe your brain cell “count”.
My pleasure! Thank you for finally asking such a simple question. 4 x 4 x 4 x 4 x 4 = “1024”: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=187149 - Scroll down my original post until you see a wall of numbers with “1024”. Then follow the instructions.
2.8 x 1.618 = 4.5304 (484).
x2 = 5.688888
x2 = 11.377776
This number went up one dimension, this means it will hold universal secrets.
3 + 6 = 9
7 x 7 = 49
7 x 7 = 49
This is a “3966” number.
A.K.A “396” + “6” = “402”, which is “42” in a 3rd dimension.
Do you have any idea what 396 is?
3.96 x 1.618 = “6.40728”. That is x2 and 0.12 away from Pi. Notice that 4 + 8 = 12. And 12 goes into 72 “6” times". This “random” sequence of numbers is based on “12”. You can’t make this up. It’s NOT random.
in the holographic theory information is at the base of existence, which is a projection of it. numbers and other languages are or represent information don’t they?
on the other hand, at base level its all to weird for such lateral thinking imho. information pertaining to QM would surely be non-linear? …what I was alluding to earlier did fit the discussion as I saw it?
What you’re saying is, you personally do not like the idea that everything is made out of codes because you, like others, don’t have the patience to understand how far “reality” gets and how far “real” gets.
What I’m saying is, I do not care about your opinion. It’s personal; not only that, it’s based on fear and repression of the Truth.
‘Universal secrets’? Such as what? What do you numbers represent exactly? You sound like a new-age con-artist, or worse. Not knowing what your numerical models represent IN PHYSICAL REALITY just proves you are lost in a world of meaningless symbols. Pure Mathsturbation.
On a totally separate note, have you ever seen ‘A Beautiful Mind’…?
If your body is lacking 1 and 3 (as a body sometimes does of course) then you may develop cancer. But don’t fret. All you have to do is take some yellow.
Nice one. I am heading to the cancer unit of the local hospital armed with bananas, melons, sponges (only the yellow bit of course!), and several thoroughly jaundiced individuals. And of course as many bottles of piss as I can carry. The only question is: Will it be enough??