The things I accept and reject.

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It’s fairly straightforward. A list of what I accept in general social systems and why. A list of what I reject as people seem to think of them as a tangible importance to a cause.

THINGS I ACCEPT–

*The anthropic principal.

It’s weird the way that everything happened, and the likelihood is next to impossible . . .

Our universe, the earth, our living bodies.

But then we would only exist where these circumstances would take place in a vast sea of possibility. So don’t bother try to think about if further. It’s likelihood IN our context. Its probability just doesn’t matter to our perspective. No need to further analyze it.

*The unknown god.

The universe is not well enough understood. Whatever is out there is just not assumable. But no evidence implies that it needs to be found any time soon. Why rush.

*Industrialism

Humanity and naturality is dieing or dead. There is nothing left to follow our primitive ways. It’ll never come back. We’re converting into a species of more efficient energy solutions and machines that soon supercede us. Who cares if you can’t live the way you wanted. You’re a cog in a machine. Maybe not in the most fundamental terms (sure, believe in a soul or whatever) but in society you’re just turning the gears. Let the machine take over.

THINGS I REJECT

*Capitalism.

Energy is useful. Money is meaningless. It represents nothing. A swarm of stupid people exchanging bits of exchange for exchange value for . . . more exchange value. No end. No base. Nothing. It’s pointless. It’s crap. You’re rich, you’re poor. It has nothing to do with fair equity. You just got to exchange in some lucky breaks . . . and you know how to play the arbitrary system enough to be content with the fact that what you’re dealing with is meaningless except to get you stuff. The bombing of a large bank would make people scream “terrorism” and politicians scream “recession.” Yet all in all, it would be the RIGHT thing.

*Intellectual Property

You own the things you can fend for. In some ethic, maybe you could even own a building you’ve never even been to. But owning “thoughts” is so utterly stupid. So one might argue that it’s more literal. You own . . . the --application-- of thoughts. Big difference. You own what someone might randomly do in some random place. As long as it gets trated, it blips on your radar of ownership? The whole concept of intellectual property should be blown to bits starting with the bombing of a patent office . . . my solution to a lot of things involves bombing, I guess.

*The family unit

Living with the family is meaningless. Human beings deserve to be herded like cattle, serving the prospect of energy efficiency and possible intellectual use. Whom you are stuck with is somewhat irrelevant. Don’t even bother with foster homes. Just round up with whatever human they stick you with. Let it have a little more freedom than jail, but really . . . the jail environment is what we’re looking at. Humans all belong in random combination within some megacomplex to coldly foster their life and offer venues for their random eccentric thoughts . . . the minimums to retain sanity and health.

*Spiritual designation

We all have things we believe about the way things are. Identifying ourselves as such is rather meaningless. Sure we can say, “I’m atheist” or “I’m Christian.” All in all, your practices don’t really change because you’re stuck in the necessity to survive and follow the culture of wherever you are. You have liberties of opinion, you really have no liberties to “practice” any beliefs unless you consider it valid practice to pray over nicknacks and clutch a book that’s rather randomly authored. If you’ll really do so, go ahead, it doesn’t so much matter.

*Pacifism

Every body faces the possibility of cancer. An unwelcome trend can easily occur. And some unwelcome trends really don’t care if you welcome them in open arms or resist them, they’ll screw you up the same. Pacifism is the greatest joke I’ve ever heard.

Money does have value…

It is easier to exchange money than equipment…why did we use gold back in the day? Gold has no real value when it comes to making things or eating or w/e…its shiny and can be made into jewelry, but in the end, it would be worthless if there was a shortage of food.

What I am trying to say is that money simply represents everything we have created…:wink:

It did at one time have some legitamete value in terms of redeemable gold. In this sense there was a physical application even if the choice was rather arbitrary. Pick a rare and useful metal (not harmful to skin). Sounds reasonable enough.

Those times are gone. They are now paper with absolutely no specified meaning other than the paper.

It’s meaning comes from its acceptance.

The only way it can become worthless is if the perception is that it is worthless.

Nice start Gaia, here’s mine:

THINGS I ACCEPT:

*Nihilism

The best path towards ‘truth’ and ‘reality’ is one of infinite regress. Socrates was right and that was 2000 years ago, yet philosophers are still dabbling about with useless/impotent ideas. To know something, you must first know nothing. Why did Socrates never claim to know anything–it was because of the natural infinite regress of knowing nothingness. You simply can’t know nothingness; the best that you can do is walk a path towards it. The end is death and this is where ‘truth’ and ‘reality’ is spawned from. As you turn away from death and reject the nihilistic compulsion for suicide, then you find that life is full of unknowing.

There is no grand ‘truth’; there is no objective ‘reality’, only illusions and delusions. Our subjective existences are so much more powerful than 99.9% of what people in the world realize. This lack of realization is created by our institutional hypocrisies and half-truths. The masses wander aimlessly and ignorantly until there is an enlightenment of reason–“the day the whole world went away”.

The Inter-dependent World

We are selfish animals. However, there is a degree of practical selflessness in the world when people consider that we are also social animals.

I will kill for me and my own survival. Also, I will kill and die for the survival of whoever I choose. Neither of these actions are absurd, while they are absurd at the same time… This contradiction is valid, because it is a paradox. Regardless, it makes sense for me to kill and die for specific personal and social reasons.

In the end, I will do whatever I want to.

Metaphysics

‘Pure energy’ is the basis for our universe and being. Everybody is metaphysical at some point. Everybody is ideological at some point. Everybody is a hypocrite and imperfect at some point…

Just embrace these things and realize nobody has all the answers, because philosophical answers are shared. Everybody believes something–it’s pretty cool that nobody actually believes the same thing!

THINGS I REJECT:

Christianity

Christianity is a failed religion. It is an opium for the masses and is severely outdated. It needs a new Jesus/messiah to re-awaken its delusional system of fallacies. It cannot withstand or keep up with the oncoming “Age of Reason” (that I see as inevitable). This may be the apocalypse that Nostradamus predicted–it is not the death of the world or hell on earth. It is the death of Christianity and the Christians. They will all die and enter heaven, because it no longer exists. It shall join the nothingness it has tried endlessly to evade. It is a failure.

Sometimes I feel sorry for Christian ignorance, but then I realize that it is part of the same institutionalization that I have succumbed to… Oh well, at least I realize and admit to my own hypocrisy… [-o< [-(

O:) :evilfun:

THINGS I NEITHER ACCEPT NOR REJECT:

Institutionalization

I enjoy my computer. I enjoy taking the bus downtown to work. I enjoy making out with a drunk hottie at a dance club. I enjoy the ‘simple things’ and pleasures our American society has to offer me.

Yet I am aware of the dangers and flaws of this system. Due to over-population, above all things, we are headed for some massive die-offs unless the human race is smart enough to solve the future’s problems exponentially. Who knows; we just may be that smart? On the other hand, I’m prepared. When it comes down to it, I choose me and my own over society.

My marriage with institutionalization is a one of convenience above everything else. If I want to dominate or destroy the world; I would need a better plan than Hitler’s, apparently… :evilfun:

:laughing: :sunglasses:

yet money is made meaningless when some dip shit digs up a bunch of shiny gold which assumes a part of the worlds value.

This might be debatable, but it seems that from your statement- you are admitting that by attaining money you are investing in the mere perceptions of what you have. So what you have is dependant, not on a standard of security in absolution- but in a standard of how others perceive what you have. You have a solid figure in the bank. In fact, billions of dollars are spent to keep that figure consistent by all of your interactions. And yet that solid, carefully established figure . . . is dependant on rumour and hearsay in its actual worth.

Oh and I would add classical philosophy to the things I reject. Mainly because I don’t think knowledge of former so-called philosophers ( . . . how did they get that label?) suffices as legitamete philosophy. At best it is dissemination of art, where the “art” piece is the portrayal of these ancient figures, and philosophy can be derived by modern analysis of the historical depiction. In essence- I’m not saying that you would be a fool if you love Socrates, if you love Niche, if you’ve read a lot of their books . . . and you use their phrases and actions as a reference to your philosophical beliefs. Instead, I am saying that to warrant you as a legitamete philosopher, your references to these things are meaningless compared to your logical methods of justification.

I like to accept that anything is possible.

I like to reject my mortal status.