Relationships with women are never free, maybe your own mother who raised you as a child unconditional free love exists, but beyond that never free at all concerning interactions.
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Power, influence, and domination where in the human civilization environmental setting translates into material economic wealth or money. With women it always comes down to dominance and material security. They are also creatures of convenience and luxury.
There are a few exceptions to this rule but generally speaking with the majority of women this is almost always the case.
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Between a physically fit poor man versus a physically fit wealthy man they’ll always choose the rich one.
As for mental illness they’ll only describe the poor this way, if you’re wealthy it’s being eccentric.
Women are creatures of social economic classism, they don’t know how to be any other way largely.
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Makes me wonder are they able to comprehend a world where money didn’t exist ?
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Yes, in hunter gatherer societies they were attracted to the men that could provide food, shelter, security, and safety to them.
But throughout all the historical ages of humanity they’re only concerned with what men can provide for them. It really always comes down to that and sexual reproduction is the transactional exchange. It always comes down to that sexual tradeoff.
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Despite this it’s possible to exist and continue to survive with a man without ever having sex with a woman or forming any relationship with women.
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I meant as a man typo but yeah I’ll repeat it again in case you didn’t understand despite that but you just said about women apparently needing men you could exist as a man and never have sex with a woman or never for many relationships with a woman at least romantically anyway.
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Not entirely impossible these days when their expectations for men is entirely beyond the roof.
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Yup, the woman came up with the underlying fear in all those things Mugabe mentions. Nothing in the culture as a whole that leads to this. Nothing about power. Silly women. They are never satisfied with how they look. It’s not like there is a gaze they need to think about filing them in archives with millions of comparative images.
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So, women are always the perpetual victim in everything? They always do what they do or must because they’re always coerced through no fault of their own?
I have a wife and a daughter, I know a few things about women. It’s true on some occasions men can be quite cruel where males are warranted of criticisms they receive but what I have also seen over the years is the amount of deception women use over men all the time and that a lot of their own self injurious behaviors they’ll blame on men because that is an easier conduit rather than blaming themselves.
See, this happens every time. I think it is more complex than Mugabe’s gosh women are nuts, and that means I think women are blameless. Seriously, that is something for you to look at. It’s common here. If you are critical of some facet of capitalism you are a communist to some people instantly. If you think there are problems with arguments in favor of determinism, then you believe in free will. If you think the US should not be at war with Iran, then you support the government of Iran.
It’s all binary. All one way or the other. Of course women are not innocent victims. But I expect people to realize that something more complex is happening than Mugabe’s version of things. It’s convenient for him to think women are just born that way, period. Silly women, or as he often called them ‘mere women’.
You found someone you married I hope you find to be an equal. if anything you seem to think she is better than you, but I hope on some level it feels like equals to both of you. You can think she is a radical exception, most other women are idiot sharks. Fine, I know the feeling. But, if you don’t think most men are idiot sharks who also helped create the culture we live - and how we are taught to self-relate - then youse outta touch man.
And yes, in Mugabe’s society, the power was nowhere near evenly divided. Politics, home, everywhere.
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Even the most horrible things done to women, like Female Genital Mutilitation are often carried out by women. With FGM, the mother’s take the girl to the female mutilator and the clitoris gets cut off at the end and the labia sewn shut. But if we see that phenomenon as having nothing to do with men and what they want, we are missing something huge. It’s not the women who want 100% guarantee their bride to be is a virgin or that she may desire sex on her own. These hav to do with male fears that entered the culture and led to those roles. But this understanding of the men’s role doesn’t take away how the women not only carry these kind of things out but act as enforcers around it. And of course women bring their own fears and bitterness when they create the culture and not just because things men have done.
I don’t run out of my house, Joker, hugging all the women and spitting at the men. I feel blessed when anyone, regardless of their sex, turns out to be a friend and ally. It’s a miracle.
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No, I would argue women are mental slaves to their genetic and evolutionary programming unable to remove the primitive ape where they’re naturally hardwired for sexual capitalism, so much so that a majority of them don’t even notice it at all in mental awareness completely oblivious. To be fair men have their shortcomings as well, but I find comparing the sexual dynamics of both women are the most extreme in regards of sexual valuations where it is no small wonder why men lose their collective minds as a result over it.
A sort of sexual NPC where everything revolves around the sexual marketplace and sexual capital, that to me is what women simply are.
I think of you as a 1990s liberal moderate, you try very hard to remain in the center but the rest of the world has torn itself into the extreme polarizations as the entire world itself has become extreme overtime. Definitely not a fun current historical period trying to remain a center moderate within this political structure. I cannot imagine that is very easy for you at all.
It’s not a perfect marriage by any stretch of the imagination, but out of all the women I have interacted with she has been the nicest to me which is why I have stayed around all these years committed to her.
Human sexuality is walking on a tight rope of two opposite extremes and the only way to avoid them is to make sure there is a careful balance between the two.
On one opposite extreme you have radical feminism where female sexual hypergamy in all the excesses of a liberally unregulated sexual capitalism or the sexual marketplace views a majority of men as being inferior where only a minority of men are valued and deemed worthy for reproduction at the very top of society.
This system works very great for women in the initial stages of its development but then comes with the serious problem of alienating a majority of men that have been deemed unfit. Its also ironically alienating for women as well because as only a minority of men are deemed sexually fit for reproduction that means women are left to themselves competing against other women for an extremely small pool of valuable males.
The consequences of this female sexual hypergamy of sexual capitalism and the sexual marketplace are immense in that a majority of the alienated men become very radicalized as a direct result going into dissent to the point of becoming revolutionary undermining all of society that rejects them sexually. Eventually these men will form revolutionary aggressive coalitions until they destroy the very society that alienates them sexually. Again, human sexuality has far reaching negative consequences when taken to the extremes and I feel like this subject isn’t talked about enough.
Once that happens those same majority of dissenting men will implement a new regulatory culture that will be extremely brutal, repressive, and controlling in regards to everything that is female sexuality in the creation of a new societal structure.
Two extremes with very terrible consequences inside of human societies in regards to sexuality. You might even call both a never-ending cycle of sexual extremes since one extreme leads to the other which then leads right back to the opposite side. A never-ending sexual pendulum of extremes that swings back and fourth forever.
Sure, rape. It’s a shortcoming.
I think of you as a 1990s liberal moderate, you try very hard to remain in the center but the rest of the world has torn itself into the extreme polarizations as the entire world itself has become extreme overtime.
That is funny. I feel like even to point out how ridiculous that is taking it too seriously. OK what problems would liberal moderates have with me. I refused to get the covid vaccines. So, did my wife. And the reasons would make nearly every liberal think I am dangerous, insane, with Trump for some reason - even though he was very pro-vaccine. I think 9/11 was an inside job. I think schooling is toxic: not just bad pedagogy, but training to be non-citizens. Schooling. No public schooling, all schooling - there are some schools that are very radical that have some better qualities, but I’m on the deschooling team. I like neither party and consider them part of the oligarchy. I could go on and on. Put me in a room with liberals and we have an open and honest conversation and I will have people screaming at me in ten minutes. Or I’d be screaming at them. I was much more the angry young man, when I was a young man. Now I see little point in talking to people anywhere on the normal spectrum of politics, who sit somewhere on the left right scale and have a party they prefer. Many of my beliefs I do not share here because there is no point. These have to do with metaphysics. My life would be so much easier if your hallucination was true here. I could be more open and not immediately slide into conflict.
For a communist Buddhist you utterly entranced by the two party, two political entity system, which is bizarre, since you don’t fit on that yourself. But you try to put me there.
Yeah, I know.
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Well, I think there is some popular saying that sexual rape is about power or the lack of and of course under sexual capitalism where you present yourself as a sexual commodity and utility to be afforded violent sexual behaviors become more explainable within that overall far reaching context. Offenders cannot afford the sexual commodity or utility and resort to stealing it.
You always come off to be as being liberal because your views come across as being more liberal than they are conservative.
Of course I could be wrong, I really don’t know much about you or your views. I am just over here left to my assumptions.
Likewise other Marxists and communists cannot stand me because of my conservative viewpoints. I feel like a Marxist from the year 1910 transported to a future where there all of these fake effeminate liberals who call themselves Marxists and communists exist. I just want a form of political communism that is more heterosexual and less liberally gay.
Yet again, I imagine a liberal from the 1990s doesn’t have much in common with the liberals of the 2010s onwards.
We find ourselves in similar predicaments politically.
Every culture has had rape, even the ones where women were property.
No need to assume.
I didn’t get along politically with liberals in the 90s.
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Women are natural biological sexual and vaginal capitalists, men are sexual proletariats.
Behold modern man the domesticated cash cow and laboring work horse of liberated modern feminist women where a majority of them view men as simply disposable means to an end, their own. Sexual intercourse the transactional value exchange and earned form of resource trade.
