This 1% Wealthy Elite Stuff Is Getting Old And Pointless

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Disclaimer: On and off homeless, I’m not on welfare of any sort and am in the bottom most percentile in the US for anything.

I’m getting really, really sick and tired of the old Commie layovers of this fear the rich, 1% owns 99% of the wealth bullshit.

Why I don’t care:

  1. The vast majority of that wealth is tied to ownership of potential liquidity of all assets… if you own a company, it means your worth is the worth of that whole company, if you had a buyer, according to calculations done by the tax people who hunt all your assets down. The average rich person can’t do much with the bulk of their wealth without going out of business. If all the rich people got out of business, and horded their money in “The Bank of the One Percent”, civilization would collapse. That Bank would go bust cause it wouldn’t have anything of value in it. Diamonds, gold, silver… no nutritional value. Paper currency… maybe some currencies can be made into a stew. Every factory on planet earth would rot.

  2. Despite this, they do have considerably more take home pay than you or I. Its no where near this 1% calculation in regards to their readily disposable wealth, but it’s higher than my paycheck of less than $200 a week. Does it make me glum? Somewhat, not really. Why? Short of getting the better babe, and general ease of transactions and worry (which is admittedly nice), they have limited categories of stuff to buy. I have one body, in one given place at any given time. Smart phones, outside of being Apple or Android base, aren’t really too different… you buy the high or low version, your getting more or less the same stupid product, largely the same internet… just they can plow through some paywalls easier.

Your a woman wanting a new outfit… you can buy a affordable knockoff if most anything… video game systems are affordable, you can own a car usually… yes, rich can own $500 cars like Batman or Jay Leno, but so what? They can only drive one at a time, and they are for getting you to places. When your asleep, doesn’t matter if your in a mansion or a sleeping bagexperience in the rain, I’ve done both, similar experience… if you have a family, you want shelter for them, but it doesn’t need to be too extreme. A house or a palace operates off of similar principles. You can fix it up with scraps, decorate it with ingenuity. In Iraq, I saw some people scavenge descent set ups, others lived in filth, both surrounded by ruins… just one guy decided his digs we’re going to be respectable… both equally impoverished. Choice is yours in the long run, how you adapt.

  1. I just don’t give a fuck about them. Like… seriously, I’ve done security for them… their parties suck. Their conversations suck… it’s not refinement, it’s just faux accultured hubris. I can’t begin to give a flying fuck about them. I like a pretty woman in a nice dress, and they are almost universally gold digging, so that’s my main qualm. But you know what, the poor can still bang the rich’s wives once they’ve become landed, so not all hope is lost for the poor man. Not advocating, just saying. You might think your higher class, but we share the same streets and glances… nothing totally insulates.

  2. There is no alternative… seriously, the main objective is a bunch of Communists with no background in politics or economics becoming the new 1%… fuck that. The current 1% doesn’t make me salute political commissars, or go on long marches, or build dams under impossible conditions through mass labor, or make everyone March in step, or memorize Communist works, make me listen to a constant stream of propaganda that I can’t turn off, have struggle sessions at work, talk about the master race or ordered or riled into excitement to launch pogroms against minorities or class enemies… I’m never going to get a better deal through communism. What, if the Communist take over I get to snatch the Mayor’s fancy antique pens and get put on mandatory food stamps, told to live in a bungalow outside uniontown with another philosopher, informed I have to philosophize in a certain manner for the people (in other words, nitwits in the party)… that sucks balls, and that’s my best case scenario.

Any new idea I come up with, stagnates and dies, or worst, gets it’s own inefficient factory mass producing my idea into overkill regardless of market forces nobody can see anymore… no fuck that.

Or worst, I’d be hunted on the underground, writing philosophical pamphlets as some KGB Gestapo entity hunts me cause I’m not nearly patriotic enough. Yeah, a few poems by me threatens a massive totalitarian state.

Fuck no, I’m not having shit to do with that. Until we have Star Trek replicates that can E = MC2 stuff from thin air, breaking down wealth 50-50 equally for all is a incredibly bad idea, we go instantly back to the stone age. It doesn’t matter if the state owns all businesses and let the managers run them, or if the rich own them… either case, 99% really don’t own it, no matter the rhetoric of a people’s republic that you do… cause you really fucking don’t stupid. Walk into a random factory in a socialist paradise, give orders, and see what happens. You’ll have your ass tossed out.

Literally, you need a futuristic matter replicator, or need to shut up about the 1%. As long as the rich are too distracted with their 5 homes, they aren’t going to worry too much about your 1 house. Does it have a roof? Locking door? Water? Heat? If so, your rich, shut up. Honestly, just shut up. Most people don’t have that, and I don’t remember the Soviets or China rushing out IKEA products to the impoverished third world… that shit doesn’t work any better than what we do now, worst infact in most cases.

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They still have trouble finding ways to burn up their money. Even if all you say here is true, the odd ways they end up blowing their wealth daily is rather amazing. But one big thing they can and do do is undermine democracy. They control the government, directly or indirectly through their corporations. If they want to go to war, they will and their sons, in general, will not be the ones dying. Using this power they are now third worlding much of the firstr world. The pockets of third worldness are spreading and the middle class is disappearing and more people are working much hard with much more stress for the same amount of food or rent or other basic life substance. They are not aligned with nations, but with their own freedoms, power and influence.

If you see me pointing this out as a call for STalin to organize the US, then you are making a fundamental error of assuming that seeing problems entails using specific solutions.

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Not true, the sons on the rich join hard core infantry units too. My battle buddy in basic training was from a oil family, he went on into the Rangers, a unit very difficult to join, and who couldn’t care about his wealth personally to begin with.

There are a lot of guys heavily recruited into the military, one unit… unfortunately… massive fucking embarrassment, you can only join IF your rich, and you gotta give your entire paycheck from the Army as charity to maintaining the barracks. Its a “blue blood” unit, national guard Calvary men, who grandfathered in their units revolutionary war rights prior to Congress passing the militiaman act… they elect their own officers (only unit still allowed to do that), ride around drunk off their ass in parade uniform on horses holding martinis, have a rank not allowed in the rest of the Army anymore (3rd Lieutenant, a Coronet, which I presume is treated as a 0-3 Captain in terms of pay).

It must be great to go potentially from Private to Officer overnight, walking into some larger base with a shit eating grin on your face, half drunk, saying you just got elected captain of your unit for winning a drinking game… and need your pay grade and rank certified by the Pentagon… just the look of shock on the new girls face trying to explain Army doesn’t do shit like that, and he whips out parchment pointing out his unit us grandfathered in and certainly can, go get your boss.

Try to demote him for misconduct, they will just reelect him. That unit don’t give a fuck… they got members living all over the US who fly in to do their training (I have my suspicions in regard to their training) from all over the country monthly. They can afford to.

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Its tolerated only to the point that they can perform, it’s left over from yesteryear. But for the Green Berets, I know rich guys heavily try out for it. They seek it out, half to fail and end up at my old unit (guys who fail getting into rangers and SF get sent to Alaska, cause it’s a difficult environment… might not be good enough for SF or Rangers, but better still than most).

I also know a considerable chunk of our airforce pilots come from wealthy backgrounds, kids knew how to fly. Its no different from special forces being primarily rednecks with a obsession with shooting growing up. I’m sure it happens, but your probably not going to get many guys without a flying background prior to joining the military to become F-22 or Stealth Bomber Pilots. I might get cussed out by flight Instructors for pointing that out, but honestly, it really, really helps to show you know the basics of flight day one prior to joining flight school.

So our rich do fight. Whites and Hispanics overwhelmingly join front line airborne units. Asians have a presence (can’t easily judge them per population), blacks avoid the airborne like the plague, hiding out in leg units, usually in service positions. If you go to a southern unit, like 3rd ID, it’s almost pure black for support units as far as visibility goes, but up north, less and less… I don’t know how they convinced the Pentagon to do that. You’ll find a overwhelming number of blacks in infantry units there too, but they got a serious chip on their shoulder. It was akwards switching out with 3rd ID in Iraq, cause we we’re given the impression the new guys coming in were similar to US… we all train at Fort Benning, for basic training and airborne school… but as fresh guts new to the military… 3rd ID was treated as a punishment unit of sorts, you mess up… you won’t go Airborne or Ranger… they will send you to 3rd ID to die with them… we just figured they we’re all like the guts who we’re shitheads from Basic Training…

They get to out base, it was almost all black, they we’re sneering at us, yelling “Cotton Bailers”… it took us a long time to discover that was their War of 1812 slogan, Jackson (later president Jackson) made them stand behind bails of cotton in new Orleans to shoot at the British… British couldn’t shoot through it, but they could shoot the British… we took it that they were made to bail cotton cause they were all black. No one explained it to us. First time I saw a guy with all gold teeth too in the army, he was a cook who just stand at our cafeteria smiling bug with his teeth wide open maliciously. Never heard so much rap music before blaring all over the FOB, honestly never heard loud music playing there till they arrived. Everyday was gunshots going off, and guys walking to the toilet with fingers on the ready, looking SF in shirts to take a shit… that unit just pissed me off, and the black guts from my unit wanted nothing at all to do with them.

We have a much harder time getting blacks to integrate into the military than the rich. There is a subculture in the US that makes it seem like blacks have no choice but to join the military to get out of poverty, so they come in and do the most absolute least, and keep racial tensions unnecessarily high. It pisses you off the higher the skill set you climb to get to a more advanced unit, the number of blacks who follow to join decreases dramatically. Substantial drop from basic training to airborne school, even larger drop from airborne to ranger battalion… don’t even get me started on Alaska. The Black’s who did make it, absolutely deserved to be there, zero racism towards them. If you go to Alaska, see black people, it’s mostly from veteran families… it’s why Alaska is a highly integrated state culturally… everyone is very strongly pro military, including the locals who do national guard training in high proportions (they like hunting and the wilderness, army likes them). I can’t say this is the case elsewhere. The racism is blaring, and my unit blindly walked into that in Iraq… we hadn’t the slightest expectation we would be walking into a race match when they showed up. In hindsight, I understand why, but not at the time, found it shocking. Turned my expectations upside down. Its certainly not from a lack of recruiting, or effort to get blacks to go airborne of into special units, airborne school drops half a class each class… but it’s mostly people quitting… it’s too large a population to nitpick individuals… they see you fuck up, your gone, next month… a new batch, next month, a new batch, next month, a new batch. They don’t care, save you don’t kill or injure them on a jump. I dunno how to get black people in mass to willingly jump out of a plane, or snowshoe across Alaska. Puerto Ricans do it… they really, really, really don’t like it, but they do it.

I just don’t fucking know. Its a impossible effort to get a certain element of the African American population to view army as anything other than a ATM machine, or way to college, they otherwise hate it with a racial passion. You can’t force they to integrate into the airborne… you gotta volunteer for it, it’s a really bad idea to throw drafters out of airplanes without a choice in the matter… so you can’t go to these overwhelmingly black units saying “Hey, Eisenhower just calked up, your all being integrated into airborne units, your jumpin tomorrow”… you would gave a mass desertion. Its scary… jumping out a plane. Impossible task to break their opinion it’s a White and Hispanic unit only, many of them never want something more than the minimum, or safest position possible. It really pisses you off if you crawled up as far as you could go, constantly trying to go higher… to see that malaise. Honestly, had they given me a clear career path to Delta Force when I signed up, I would of taken it. Not your guys in 3rd ID… they say fuck nooooo! and would blare their music out, go get high and fail a pisses the next day. Pisses me off.

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Why did you leave the forces?

You seem to have been fairly well suited, (not being factious), but taking orders, not thinking for yourself, is a requirement to fit in, which would be very difficult, for someone who has strong opinions of their own.

Civilian life does not seem to suit you.

I think you would still be in it but for some unforeseen circumstance that had arisen?

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Yeah, my knee going to shit.

I guess honestly I could of his out in a HCC somewhere, then gotten a job as a analyst, but I decided to become a philosopher instead during Iraq. Had I become a Analyst, I would of been little more than a copy of Marcuse, thinking in his pattern. Remember, he turned against his former self… I believe there is still substantial areas of the mind, psychological puzzles to be solved before we reach the full potential for how we think strategically, how we govern competently and not maliciously. I don’t have a single thinker alive I can honestly point to and say “He is my role model, he is who I should follow, get advice from”. Most tuck tail and leap into government work, or fit into a organization, such as a think-tank or private business.

What am I to do with my original motivations, and my capacity to see where everything is torn asunder, as a analyst somewhere, or in middle management? I don’t see much point to living life like that, if it betrays the concerns I feel. Id rather be hopeless yet clawing for progress, than safe and turning a blind eye, increasingly cynical and disenchanted. Who do I turn to for approval, or esteem in such a world, is any of it worthwhile when people are dying randomly and uselessly? We can’t have a concept of justice without a full understanding of human nature, or else it will be contradictory and inhumane, decisive and counter productive. We can’t have just government, a competent government unless we become honest and knowledgeable about the intricate nature of conflicting behaviors, and the logistics of effectively guiding governmental force. There isn’t a single office save maybe the presidency that pretends to this, and I quite frankly aim for my ideas to take nesting there, in the farther long term.

In the short term, I study, I think, I walk around and keep a keen eye, constantly question, always answer… looking for trouble. What job is this? Point to it. My society, in the US has no position such as that. I try things, some fail, but some may succeed. I’m lucky, the field of philosophy I practice in has a very long history of recluses, and a paramount effort to preserve our insights. I know very few will look at me, but those very few will be great men and thinkers of every nation. When you write on military science, statecraft… they never let your works easily be lost. What is important isn’t the self, but our community and our future. Your a INTJ… you know that impulse deep down inside when you realize everything is completely lost… the capacity to completely rip who you are away… any trace of it, and rebuild yourself anew. The ability to set out against impossible conditions no one else dares to. I’m not the first to discover it, it’s been written on before me, but no one has considered its importance to the cycle of philosophy.as a whole. Its important from time to te a few of us do this. Doesn’t have to be all, just a few. It isn’t the end of life or a great sacrifice to undertake a examination of life, and the civilization you live in, and reconsider in parts where it is going. I look far back, and far forward like Janus.

I got a substantial amount of my health back too, took years to walk proper again. Took years to learn how to think. It will take many more years to do a great many more things, but it’s a good mark of man to walk upright, and to think of profound things… it’s what separates us from the apes. I think I’m off to a good start with this philosophy thing.

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I agree. When a mawfucka try ta tell anuh mawfucka that he shouldn’t be wealthy, he’s a hater. in the grand economy there is nothing to blame or praise, and nature is entirely without providence or discretion.

The gap between the wealthy and the poor is a small price to pay for the advances capitalism has made for us, though.

Compare the sleeping arrangements of the following two historical classes: postindustrial poor people have mattresses in abandoned buildings… while the the upper lower class people of the mercantile age were still sleeping on straw mattresses.

This means that the poor people of today have it as good as the petite bourgeois of the precapitalist period, I think.

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The problem we have with it is companies like Monsanto. Companies shouldnt be allowed to put toxins and lakes and have patents on fruits.

The only reason they get away with it is because they are wealthy.

The only way people become president is through wealthy campaign contributions.

It’s injust. Presidents should be determined by wisdom, not how many corporations donate to its campaign.

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While it’s true that people are generally happier as slaves, slaves must also be given clean water and food or else they will be unhappy. Also, polluting the vegetable genetic pool means that even the %5’s food isn’t safe. Therefore, the Illuminati should give Monsanto the boot.

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Ok, so you are really going to counter my generalizing with an admission of exceptions by anectdotal evidence. You really think the rich are represented to the same degree as the poor? Of course some of the rich use the option they have amongst all the options the poor do not share with them.

And yeah, then the stuff, about how they wield power, generally as corporations over government. But we can pretend I did not mention that and think I somehow shit on your buddy who is rich but enrolled. I am sorry I besmirched him, though I didn’t.

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Yeah because John Kerry went to Vietnam and so did John Mccain. Maybe even Elvis but I’m not sure.

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Rich people get bored and do suicidal stuff. How is this news?