TIME: Revisiting McTaggart's C Series

Yeah, I agree.

But I also think a thing that you discounted before many posts back that I am loathe to retrieve: that there are things between us and God that aren’t currently considered possible or aren’t known and mapped and exist, by the grace of God, yes, but in that same way that all physics does. Not exclusive of Jesus, of direct miracle, but simply as part of that Great Space, like Earth.

That’s I think one thing Catholics have on our protestant bretheren: how much more immense of a scope we see in God (usually).

I don’t disagree with you that there is much more to come, and I think it is ridiculous to make this a catholic / protestant thing. I think it is just abused and manipulated by the secular world to justify things like gain a function research that has absolutely nothing to do with God and therefore results in loss of function, if not consent violation.

That’s really all I’m saying. It’s not as simple as photosynthesis and Jesus.

There is an infinite range to God’s creation, even before you factor extraordinary intervention.

By the way, you didn’t directly say this but I interpreted it and agree: science, and anything else, devoid of the sacred, of the level of sanctity, of God, is harmful to the practitioner. It’s actively empty.

Can you start a new thread on what you think that means as opposed to more generally protestant accounts, and catholic accounts?

I might Ichthus. My heart can only take so many rage mutes. And this one is sure to cause rage.

I’m just a country boy living in my shack.

For now, Pezer needs a nap.

As long as I do not sense any manipulation or deception in your reasoned defense, you have nothing to worry about. I can see why you would need a nap.

Only licensed weirdos speak of themselves in the third person.

Because I’m a working man, earning the red on my neck?

I don’t think I’m starting that thread, Ichthus. It’s too long and knarled of a subject, and I don’t expect much good will. Also, the Evangelium is Catholic, that is the Catholic scripture on Jesus. It was once the only Christianity, do remember. Well and Orthodox, but they use the same material.

I might start it. By the time I work up the steam and get the engine running, you will probably have lost interest.

Also, I just now realized that I was sleepy drunk and misread the question. What I think the Evangelium is is the Biblical account of Jesus. So there no thread needed.

Why do you consider yourself Catholic but you don’t believe the biblical account of Jesus? Where do you get your information from that is better attested yada yada yada? Don’t answer that here - please start a new thread.

In case you ever thought I listened to this, I didn’t, and even if I wanted to (which I do…I’ma be honest…) I couldn’t. It isn’t working. Perhaps you and Niall can email me your versions? maryannspikes77@gmail.com

K. Playtime over, boys.

I’m replying to the original post to make this easier to find in case of future tangents.

My scribbled notes are linked here, and then I do an outline/rephrasal/interpretation:

Also, I’m getting McTaggart’s “On the Nature of Existence” (volume one for my birthday…we’ll see how it goes from there).

Where that thread went:

Make it so.

But…

I reuploaded it, you have two more days to decide not to watch it. That’s how long the thing keeps it for. Mercury moves back relative to the Earth. The Sun is as arbitrary a point of reference as the Earth. Ok thanks.

Thank you for the video.

Pretty sure that was Jakob.

Fair trade:

Chances are any given astrology amateur knows more about the cycles and physics of planetary motion than thee.

Trick question: how many times every 26 years does Jupiter turn around the Sun?

In earth years or Schmupiter years?

Erf. Erf characters.

Is an orbit a straight line? If so, zero times.

…how dare you almost make me do math‽