To Be, or Not to Be? That is the Question

Imagine, that working alone in your basement laboratory one night, you happen upon the principle for the construction of a simple and inexpensive device - a gizmo with the capability of unleashing a catalysmic death-wave upon the world. Working on, a few hours later you find yourself holding a small box bearing a single push-button. You realize that pressing the button would propagate a silent wave at the speed of light. This wave would painlessly, but relentlessly extinguish all forms of life that it encountered. People, for example, would be killed well-before they even sensed that anything was amiss. In less than 50 milliseconds the planet Earth could be quietly and efficiently scoured of all life (including your own). At a minimum, the act of depressing this button would eradicate all human pain and all human pleasure; all suffering and all joy.

Is there a rational argument for why you should not push the button?

Michael

I dunno…

Because life is there to be affirmed?

Well exclusively in the interest of world peace, it would be your obligation to push the button. But, if like me, you believe that life on earth and human life in particular has an objective purpose, then it would be a horrible thing to do

That reminds me of the end of The Planet of the Apes when a shot and disgusted Taylor (Charlton Heston) pushes the button on a bomb that destroys the world.

I’ve thought about this question many times and I’m undecided.

I am weary of all buttons and I shant go making decisions like that for entire worlds. I have trouble with basic math. How then shall I call myself an authority over the fate of anything other than myself…if even that? Icarus tried to make decisions and lust for the power of the Gods and you see where that got him, don’t cha? Six feet under…and not from being buried either, but from hitting the earth at one-hundred and twenty miles an hour after his wings melted.

I imagine that there are as many rational arguments for it as there are against it.

But no, I wouldn’t push it. The pleasure principle alone is enough to keep life alive. If we’ve got nothing else…we’ve got our dopamine receptors.

Hmmm… whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them ? Tough to answer… One of the disadvantages of being a rational being is that one has to give rational answers. But here is a shot:

My approach of the problem saw the consequences emerging from the newly acquired condition of the man you are talking about, Polemarchus (note that I am referring to the man behind the question, the man who literally has the box in his hand, who can push the button at any moment, who is conscious of the power he has and who can’t stop hinking of his it most for of the time - that is, who is faced with the stringent, every actual dilemma : to push or not to push) :

  1. in the moment that this man becomes aware of his authority over life as a generality on Earth, then a shift of absolutes is produced: life as an implicit attribute is stripped of its absolute value and embraces a subjectively relative clad; being able to objectively control the fate of
    humanity with the flick of a switch, somewhat like the mythological Atropos - the fate who cut the thread or web of life, bestows a certain omnipotence in relation to the absolute of every man’s life, which is life itself;

  2. along with the absolute value of life, any absolute norm of morality or ethics can be easily thrown out the window, as construed concepts like this have an objective value only alongside the objective absolute value of life;

3.with the fall of other absolutes, the sole absolute worth mentioning becomes the affirmation of the subject’s free will in what concerns the box;

  1. with the institution of the box, any special desire or expectation that the man might expect from life becomes absolutely meaningless and void of any importance; not being gratified his expectations, the subject, being aware of their relativeness, could in extremis push the button, in a fit of frustration… but that would lead to his death with the others as well, which would be quite useless to the case, his will being nullified along with the others, in his case leaving us with nothing to talk about; the point is that any special want that the man might have, involving sensual or hedonistic pleasures, is irrelevant to the whole issue and cannot be a decisive factor in the decision to push or not to push the button.

Now the first three consequences assure that the man has unexpectedly gained some sort of supreme power over his peers’ lives, while the fourth implies a certain liberty of indifference. This leads easily to the conclusion that, in his newly acquired condition, the subject supplements, in a way, the role of God in reference to the other people on the planet. It’s easily seen and that having authority over human life on Earth renders you the Lord of this world, as life is what people cherish the most and is the implict factor of their being here in the first place.

Furthermore, the fact that, given his human nature, the man has the capability of understanding human reason and is interested in it (he is concerned with finding rational answers to his problem), although he has the power to refute any rational demarche brought against him, confirms even more his God-like position. To listen and comprehend human rationality when speaking, but to choose and have the power to not be affected by it in any way is truly a divine attribute.

In such conditions, the silent armagheddon in a box appears to be inevitable. And indeed, it is. Were someone to freely possess such a weapon, doomsday would just be a matter of time - who can read into another’s mind and predict his thoughts ? Who can say when (s)he will push the button ? Who can stop it happening and, most importantly, how can we stop it happening ?..

Since imminent death is just waiting to come round the corner, the only solution against it would be to try to prolongue the outcome as much as possible, preferably for an indefinite amount of time. As I’ve shown earlier that rational retorts might as well be inefficient, the only path is undoubtedly through the emotional passage, by arousing feelings of affection or sympathy, because the capacity to feel is easily present in all people. And, as it is perfectly natural to respond positively and to find gladness in emotionally touching behaviours, these might just be the touch needed. Things like kindness, beauty, love, bravery - ultimately, acts of virtue - could sensitize him and keep his hand away from the infamous button, the world being redeemed through beauty, as Dostoyevsky thought. The world need not know that such a powerful man exists among them, nor should they feel obligated to act as if someone like this existed, les their actions turned into a weak pageantry. But when one is able to be a spectator to unforced acts of honesty, tenderness, tenacity or creativity, is this not a strong reminder that maybe these are the things that make the world worth leaving it be ?

The sole fact that one can find -without necessarily looking for them - nice, heart-warming things only by looking out the window could be enough of a reason, even though not a rational one, for him to not refute it.

So now tell me, Polemarchus, should I say farewell to my friends ?..

Wouldn’t the wave just keep on trucking and extinguish all (susceptable) life in the universe…?

Anyway - wouldn’t push it:

a) The “tree falling unnoticed” principle, without a self-aware something, existing somewhere, to notice, God* might as well not have bothered. Like Da’Vinci painting the Mona Lisa, then selling it to an extremely possessive blind-man. (Not rational)

b) The sacrifice the total pleasure (?bad?) for the extinguishment of total pain (?good?), doesn’t scan - people have a ‘right’ to both, and who’s to say good cannot come from suffering…? Phoenix and ashes etc… (rational…?)

c) Minded (human) life adds a different beauty to a universe full of conincidendal, natural conjunctions, in artifice, in construction. Very well, you can argue that beauty doesn’t transmit cross-species, what’s beautiful to us, may be a stain on the lavatory floor to zog the alien, but I think you’d be wrong - I can see the beauty in a termite mound, without necessarily being a termite.

*I use the term loosely - though I bet God’s first words to Adam were “So waddya think huh…? Huh…?” Perhaps the the only point of life plural, is to be its own witness…?

Since the act of pushing the button requires more force than not, (“not” requiring nothing at all) shouldn’t the burden of the argument fall to the one inclined to push? Is there a rational argument for pushing the button?, I think is the better, more appropriate question.

Since the act of pushing the button requires more force than not, and the purpose for all matter is to conserv energy rather than to waste it on all sorts of foolishness, then I guess that too should be enough of a reason not to push it.

For the chronically idle, perhaps…

:smiley:

The rational reason not to push the button is the search for the rational reason to live and the lack of a rational reason to push the button.

Well I think we have to consider what will the two conclusions give us. Is it more advantageous to take one then the other? If you do push the button, then all will end and life on earth will be over. You have nothing, yet if you don’t push the button, you will have life and all the things that are part of it, bad or good. I believe one’s actions should strive towards something, rather then nothing. Thus you shouldn’t push the button, because once you do, there is nothing (that we know of anyway)

I feel like the question should be searching for a rational argument for pushing the button.

for pushing the button? that’s easy…

if I am going so is everyone else…

-Imp

That will happen without pushing the button Imp, and it wouldn’t be a rational argument even if it weren’t going to.

Don’t push the button. Life is certainly short
enough without the help of life-ending button.
You would have to make some sort of argument that
life isn’t worth living or has no value to push the button.

Now if you made the button useful like for instance
making those who believe the British are superior
to Americans, make them disappear, now that would be
a good button to push. :wink:

Kropotkin

I may be in a good mood and just don’t feel like it. On the other hand it could take only one person or event for ‘everyone’ to regret nothing in a final nevermore to be scenario…but more likely, if I had a contraption with that sort of power I may want to try it out to see if it works; if not, it’s back to the drawing table. Also it wouldn’t be politically incorrect since there’s no discrimination involved. :evilfun

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This is also proof that at least some British women are beautiful - the black female from Sugababes in one of my favourite idle celebrity fascinations…

The question should be posed another way, asking if there is a rational argument for pushing the button. But to answer the question as you posed it, here’s my opinion.

The annihilation of all life, or any single life not threatening your own, is unnacceptable. (life, in this case, refers to human life) Since all life is of equal worth, that is, with no inherent purpose or worth save for the fact that it exists, I (the possessor of the doomsday device) am equal to you. Because the world and life is neither inherently good or evil (it has no natural purpose, except to exist) but neutral, I have not been harmed nor threatened by all life. Since I cannot say that all life threatens or harms me, I have no right to destroy all life.

Brilliant, SIS.

To truely justify the act as either “good” or “bad” is to assume that a mind could come to know what, if any, universal actions are always one or the other in one or the other specific context. This cannot happen so neither can an absolute evaluation occur, or a preference, rather, in any given moral decision.

One could never excuse pushing the button because of the decision that “life should not exist.” This is a preference and therefore contingent. A man can find hope in five minutes flat and change his whole outlook. The decision we are present to is not one that should be made under the impression of the emotional concerns- it should be approached objectively and indifferently. To one moment decide that life is a pointless struggle and push the button, while in the next he might of thought otherwise had he made some tea…is a failure to deliberate appropriately upon the matter and reach a rational, stoic ideal toward life and existence. One simply should not make such decisions and pass the button by with indifference instead.

Living life properly eliminates many a conflict with other people. One should not be obligated or indebted to another, if they can help it, and resist the urge to make judgements about the world and the many moral conflicts that arise.

So yeah, if one is not directly threatened, one isn’t seriously concerned with anything. A population of seventy-five percent starving to death is as comical as it is tragic and terrible. Comical in that it is not my doing and neither can I make a decision about it on such a large scale, yet it weighs heavily upon my shoulder as a prerequisite for many an existential night.

If the button was going to be pushed…the context would have to be so perfect it is next to impossible for it to ever happen. The decision could be made if, for instance, proof of intelligent life existed elsewhere in the universe and that the termination of the earth wouldn’t be the extinction of intelligent life as we know it, generally speaking.

I just watched the old black and white classic “The Day the Earth Stood Still,” and I thought it was excellent. An alien visits earth to inform it that if it becomes a threat to other life sustaining planets, they (the aliens) will not hesitate to destroy the earth entirely. The earth was advised to check itself and its atomic programs, and especially its tendency to war.

I suppose I’d do the earth too if it was a meager ape show on the corner of a galaxy that housed countless other planets with far more evolved life forms. Shit, I wouldn’t give it a second thought, honestly. I’d push the button twice to make sure.