Have, existence, relate, all, can, not, the present are indefinable. (I’m still working on the definition of “means”)
All things have existence.
All facts relate all things.
All beliefs relate some things and some belief can be identical to some fact in the present.
Some thing x has some thing y means y is a property of x.
Real or true must be a property of belief which must be identical to some fact in the present.
Some thing x is identical to something y if x has all the things which y has.
Identical has a wide variety of uses in popular English and we here want to mark those out as false:
Some thing x is not identical to some thing y if x exists in a different space than y.
Some thing x is not identical to some thing y if x was caused by something different than y.
Some thing x is not identical to some thing y if x has something that y does not have.
Some belief is identical to some fact in the present means everything the fact has in the present the belief also has in the present.
E.g. Some belief is not identical to some fact in the past since it is possible that some belief not exist in the past and the fact can exist in the past. Or, take the belief: “2 + 2 = 4 in standard arithmetic.” Everything that that belief has the fact has as well. It is important to keep in mind the distinction between belief and symbol. The same belief can be symbolized differently. So “two plus two equals four” is one way of symbolizing “2+2=4” and “two and two is four” is a different way of symbolizing the belief. It is not the belief that is different it is the symbols that are different. Because fact and belief do not exist in physical space it is therefore impossible for them to be different due to their locations in space as physical bodies are.
Real and true are therefore the same thing. And all real things exist in reality.
E.g. Say someone ask “Is that a real flower?” pointing to a flower made of plastic. It’s not a real flower because a real flower has the property of being capable of photosynthesis among other things. We can just as easily substitute the word “true” for “real” when we ask: “Is that a true flower?”
That belief is identical to some fact, let’s hope, because that belief has the word past in it. It’s not that the fact exists in the past, it’s that the fact has the word “past” in it.
The sun will explode in 5 billion years, unless we do nothing.
The future is expressed in the fact. It’s not that the fact exists in the future, it exists in the present but talks about the future.
All Chordates have spines. That’s a concept and that concepts exists although its existence is abstract, meaning it does not have causal powers. If you believe concepts do not exist then you run into the following contradiction:
whatever is exists
concepts quantify over all of their members.
one cannot quantify if one does not exist.
therefore concepts exist and do not exist.
Kids believe Santa Claus has a long beard.
That’s a fact because facts relate things and that fact relates “kids” to the thing “belief”. Beliefs are things.
The belief was caused in the past. That’s why beliefs are different from facts in the past but not different from facts in the present.
Anything that can bear a property exists. It’s just that it has a different type of existence. So round squares have imaginary existence, not real existence.
Dinosaurs now have abstract existence just the way that the number 7 has abstract existence.
If we take the strategy that “there are things that do not exist” then you have to reconcile you’re understanding of the word “are” with “exists”. Exists is a synonym for “be”.
There are things that do not exist.
“Are” is a synonym for “exist”
Therefore, there are things that exist and do not exist.
The belief of the kids’ relates their imaginary thing. By imagining something you bring it into existence even though it’s only imaginary existence.
Thanks for the comments, but I did not post under John Jones. If you like my posts you’re welcome to check out my full metaphysical theory in my signature.
Anyways, I’ve now read his “complete metaphysical theory”, and I no longer think that 117938Aa is a genius. But like most anyone else, he is capable of flashes of cleverness. However, I do think that 117938Aa has the kind of mind----mainly, the penchant for looking at even the most simplistic truisms as if they were highly suspect and in need of a justification/ordering----that can be an essential ingredient for genius. The downside of that ability is that sometimes you get bogged down by what really are simplistic truisms.
…however, we often say truth (singular) as in there can only be one truth, but there is no reason for supposing that there is only one reality.Truth can only refer to situations within particular realities (the truths are not necessarily transferable between realities) , whereas the word “reality” need not refer to any particular set of truths .Hope that helps.
Agreed. There is movement in life. Situations and circumstances are in flux. Truth, and the desire to find it, needs positioning or location in a frame or groupings of linked frames of knowledge so thought can utilize its logic to ascertain a premise.
No, the dictionary describes how words are used. Even if one word usage contradicts another word usage. Further, there is no agreement as to what several basic words mean, ie, truth, good, reality. Finally, the dictionary resorts to circular definitions.
Before you can say something true in particular of truth or reality you must state what is true in general of truth or reality. You’re begging the question that I agree with your conception of truth and reality.
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Thought cannot capture the movement. It can only analyze it … break it down into parts and examine them. So then truths and realities are ascertained from the acquisition of knowledge from sources that pertain to that particular field of study such as what can be learned from physiology, etc.
Nobody knows what Truth is or Reality is, but only what’s true or real for one’s purposes and in that sense is a guide when situations change. The movement of thought is in frames of knowledge, thousands and thousands of frames that rapidly project what is going on. This is received by what is perceived to be ‘you’, an entity that thinks it is separate from the movement of thought, when, actually, it is created by it. And all thought wants is to keep itself going in order to maintain an identity with this ‘you.’ Yet it is a separate self upheld by the constant utilization of thought, without which is gone.
So, to say this or that is truth or reality is done when thought tells you so. When thought is not there, it is not and is of no concern whatsoever. There may be something like Truth and Reality occuring, but you can never know what it is.
Reality is what is actually the case, truth is a correct thought about what is actually the case. Reality need not be thought dependent whereas truth is, therefore truth and reality are not the same thing.
Thought is the translation/interpretation of sensory signals by means of an experiencing structure. Thought is dependent upon knowledge which it repeats
Would I be correct in saying that there is an assumption on your part that there is a reality, and then, that there is something that you can do to experience that reality? But, without the knowledge about reality, you’d have no experience of reality, that is for sure.
