You don’t explain, Jupiter. You assert.
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I explain with assertion Max.
You are passionate about your assertions as well.
I’m a reasonable man. I want healthy doses of both sound philosophy and solid science. There are some things which belong to the realm of philosophy. There are others we’re better served with solid science, ie, knowledge which takes into account real, painful research instead of mere speculation.
The subject of the mind is one such topic. What it most probably is is the software which makes the brain function, without it the brain becomes little more than a collection of nerves. Consciousness, in itself, is one’s perception that one have a mind, a body, that one’s individuality depends on this mind and body working conjointly and also that there’s a whole universe of externalities that are not part of this individualized body but are something else. This something else includes all other bodies and all other consciousnesses. I don’t realize or perceive how other consciousnesses work or perceive the world, so I assume consciousness is something each mind experiences independently, uniquely.
The “collective” mind is an abstraction and a religious concept because the “collective” is nothing but the name we give to all the other individual consciousnesses around us.
I don’t relate attractive and repulsive electromagnetic forces to good or bad.Neither of these forces can be described as good or bad.They are merely equal but opposite electromagnetic force interactions that exist right now between all spinning matter and can’t be cancelled out but can be balanced out between all matter by the formula N/S=N/S which is just as well because it’s these balanced forces that hold all matter together which emits varying frequency electromagnetic binary logic energy waves which are picked up by the physical body and converted into sounds/visions/taste/touch/smell as well as automated thoughts which are relayed to the separated self which interprets this information.
The self which is separate from matter and therefore immaterial can think independently of automated thoughts.
The automated part of our physical nature can’t make sense of anything because it’s programmed with binary logic software.It was never meant to make any sense of anything.Its just a biological machine.
Such a Platonic concept remains to be demonstrated. Good luck with that.
According to cognitive science, conscious thought is the tip of an enormous iceberg. It is the rule of thumb among cognitive scientists that unconscious thought is 95 percent of all thought-and that may be a serious underestimate. Moreover, the 95 percent below the surface of conscious awareness shapes and structures all conscious thought. If the cognitive unconscious were not there doing this shaping, there could be no conscious thought.
Jung based his theory of the collective unconscious on the similarity between patterns he found in the dreams of his patients and those in world mythology. Given the common neuropsychological structure across the human species, wouldn’t it be surprising if our symbolic function didn’t produce cross-cultural patterns of meaning?
I don’t need luck Max honestly, not when I have a philosophical certainty that translates into a science that is sound and explains the psychological experience in a reasonable and simple way.We are all totally embroiled within matter and either exercise psychological control of consciousness and thoughts or we merely operate automatically.
It’s not possible to explain everything with a half logic starting philosophy derived from a guess about good and bad moral absolutes.The same guess that is applied to attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes as well.We know that mainstream science has already decided that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic forces cancel out based upon the good and bad philosophical guess so don’t apply these forces correctly in their models.We know it’s impossible to cancel these forces out.
We know that?
No, you’re asserting we know it.
I know you’re incapable of moving beyond this, but there’s some semblance of depth to it.
The distance between an individual taking full control (and responsibility) over his (conscious) actions or his only acting as a biological automaton.
You do know it Max…you posted that you do.Its you who has asserted it as well.I agree with your assertion.
The unconscious is one thing, the “collective” unconscious is an entirely different subject. It’s a concept almost religious in nature, but which we can associate with the common heritage of humankind, passed on from generation to generation, and then instilled in the minds of all, who then interpret it as a thing in itself, a Platonic form.
Now, how do we move from this to the notion that the universe has a mind?
The physical is only biological automation.The self is separate from that biological automation.The claim of mainstream science that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic forces cancel out is a lie Max.
So science is presently founded upon a lie.
Nope, we differ in that. There’s no such a separation. The self doesn’t exist without the physical body. The physical body is the starting point, the means and the end of it.
Why can’t you forget these gdmn “repulsive electromagnetic forces” and start talking like a real person?
Of course the self is separate from the biological Max because the self interprets varying frequency binary logic electromagnetic energy waves emitted from vibrating matter.
There is no self without a body. There is nothing human without a body.
I don’t disagree with that Max but there are separate parts to our make up.
Why would I want to forget about attractive and repulsive electromagnetic forces which don’t cancel out when they explain everything associated with philosophy;science and psychology Max?
When it comes to self, the philosophical opinion from secular science is varied but still ridiculous because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist for starters.We all know that.Also, to claim that one is an illusion is to claim that one is a misrepresentation of reality.We all know that as well.
Secular philosophy;science and psychology doesn’t add up therefore.It makes no sense whatsoever because it’s cognitively biased philosophically.
My philosophy;science and psychology is totally sound and makes perfect sense and only adopts known forces of nature not theoretical unknown forces.
That’s a maximalist interpretation of the theory. Somebody might be working on that. I’m not. I’m not seeing patients, so the dreams I reference are either mine or someone’s who reports one to me, and I compare it with symbols from world mythology.
The one who took this research the farthest I’m aware of was Joseph Campbell who explored how did archetypes like the hero or the mentor or the shadow and the anima manifest cross culturally throughout the world. Now, one thing that has to be ruled out is the possibility of communication between the cultures which would contaminate the symbolism so for example, the myths of India show similarities to those of Greece and Nordic cultures. So in order to show that that results from similarities in cognitive structure, one has to rule out the possibility of cross cultural contamination.
Well, we could start by noting the hard problem of consciousness for metaphysical materialism. Instead of consciousness arising from matter, we could propose that consciousness is fundamental, and that the material world is a manifestation of consciousness. What we perceive as the physical world could be a kind of self localization process of the mind analogous to how a whirlpool is a localized pattern in water. Individual minds then are dissociations or localized aspects of this universal consciousness of which we all are parts. Going one step further that unbounded consciousness is who we really are.
We all know that secular science is founded upon a lie because it claims that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes cancel out.
They don’t cancel out.They vibratory balance out.
It’s no secret anymore.
The truth is out there now.
There is no need for words such as electromagnetism;gravity and strong and weak nuclear forces because everything can be explained perfectly with the equal but opposite attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force interaction absolutes NN;NS;SN;SS that exist right now between all matter which vibrates because these force interaction absolutes are balanced out between all matter,N/S=N/S.
There is no other way to create binary logic 00;01;10;11 from electromagnetic energy waves which is required for automated biological machine programming other than by vibratory balancing these force interaction absolutes out between all matter.
Nikola Tesla was heading in the right direction with his theories.Fair play to him.Einstein clearly wasn’t.