Evolutionary psychology tells us that women are most attracted to power, financial security and material stability.
In short. Power, wealth and a shit load of high price toys.
Yeah. Welcome to America. Welcome to industry.
Not just America historically.
This sort of behavior has been going on since the beginning of our existence as a species.
A woman might say that she wants a sensitive man who will listen to her or treat her nicely but always it is with the catch of financial wealth and with a man of social power for if a man does not have all of the above all bets are off.
Be quiet about evolutionary psychology.
- you don’t understand it.
- you reject it everytime it contradicts your notions of human psychology, and then scream to embrace it when it supports you.
What women want can be more than 1 thing. They want good genes and someone to raise those children.
good fathers/good parents aren’t always the same person. Yes, women seek out high status people, who usually have money/resources. the biggest predictor of how beautiful a man’s wife is, is the paycheck he recieves. not surprising.
But plenty of those high status people are raising ‘lower status people’s’ babies. Say, people in positions of power today aren’t always showing off the best genes as far as their bodies go, a women sleeps with some gym buff then has the high status person raise the children. Stuff like this happens a lot.
They want more than one thing.
good genes for the offspring and a rich/kind parent to take care of it.
They talk about sensitivity and all this because they probably actually want those things IN a high-status person, or at least in the person whose child the high status person will be raising.
All within the bounds of power, wealth and material security that can only be bought. 
Which fanatical cultural popularism often enough categorizes with power and wealth.
Notice you didn’t have one without the other.
Duh, I don’t know anything at all, George.
Oh really?
So I was correct then. 
Doh, you did it again!
We aren’t talking about offspring. We are talking about what women want in a man.
It’s true, rich people are whores. If I was rich I’d probally whore around too.
Yes really.
you contradict evolutionary psychology when it suits you.
For example saying all beings are inherently selfish and concerned with themselves. Contradicts evolutionary psychology.
because according to evolutionary psychology, people are adapted for genetic propagation, ,which includes protecting your offspring,somtimes *at a cost to yourself, outside of benefit to YOU the ORGANISM, AT benefit for the GENES.
Shame on me. Naughty, naughty…
It does?
( I bet you can’t wait to grill into me about how wrong I am in the debate forum.)
You mean people are adapted for genetic propagation which includes protecting their offspring at the cost of dying through a selfish impulse of a pathological habitual obssesion of the person closest to them through that of a fetish like visualization?
Wow…
You’re right that I can’t wait to crush you with the basics of modern biology, but more importantly, you should pay proper respect to the dead scientists, their hugely influential and correct ideas about biological function. Of course if you don’t respect the truth why would you respect people who brought it to our attention?
Cyrene & Joker,
When you do your challenge on “selfishness” vs. “selflessness”, please be very precise in your definitions if you want to win over my judgment! 
I can’t wait!!!
I’m not sure I correctly understand you.
Selfish is defined by actions that benefit the individual organism.
It can’t be a selfish impulse even if it is an obession with the person close to them, because its not about keeping them alive for your emotional benefit, its about keeping them alive because they share a huge part of your genes, which may translate into emotional stability, but when a child falls into a river, somtimes the parent is right behind them without taking the time to think it through *EVEN when thinking it through could *SAVE both of them.
People have adaptations to act selflessly (at the expense of the body doing the acting) to protect genes outside the body. This is a contradiction of pretty much everything you’ve said.
And I mentioned ‘rich’ but I should have said high-status, because high-status people get women, high status usually refers to wealth/resources, but somtimes it doesn’t. Somtimes high-status is a massive social recognition of talent, or etc.
If you had a warrior elite or sports elite, or intellectual elite, they usually get women too, even when resources/money is low, because such traits would suggest future success at securing those things. Anyone with qualities which would have reliably secured status in hunter-gatherer societies as well. Even when they don’t currently have status.
but back to an earlier point you made, I never said women viewed niceness as important as high-status, but sincec niceness is an indicator of commitment, its probably *hugely important. An uncommited high-status mate, doesn’t mean a whole lot.
Who’s more selfish–men or women? Who’s more selfless? Either? Both? Neither?
And yet, according to much psychological research, findings would suggest that the poster of this thread would indeed understand it rather well…Although I wouldn’t simply go from that one article. It’s in plenty of textbooks and legitimate papers though.
Generally found more in the upper classes…they can afford it anyway.
Is this your speculation or do you have statistics and the like?
I don’t have any problem with joker’s support of this idea, I don’t have any problem with this expalantion of adaptations in females for seeking mates, i’ve known it to be true for a long time, i’ve been reading evolutionary psychology, research papers etc for over ten years. So yeah, the idea has plenty of evidence.
The problem is that joker rejects evolutionary psychology whenever he sees fit to support his own nonsensical ideas, even when the evidence for evolutionary psychology is overwhelming. Its disgusting.
theres plenty of statistics about people raising other men’s babies, yeah, theres also massive evidence that males have adaptatiosn to detect relationship probability based on facial resembelence of babies, and anti-cuckholdry devices like sexual jealousy, etc.
I only read OP. This is what I at first suspected.
And then I realized that women don’t really follow a pattern of the rich and famous. In fact a lot of pretty successful women marry deadbeat drunks that cheat on them and hit their kids.
So I decided maybe their attraction is more based on outdated evolutionary instinct to find a “power” insinuative mate.
And then I saw various attractive preppy girls with these squiggly little worm-guys whose orientation I debate.
So I decided maybe they deal with their complex by trying to resort to the “gentle” person.
And then I realized that squiggly little worm-guys are quite often assholes like anyone else.
So then I thought that perhaps women at base are very confused about attraction, but they employ feminism to serve as a political means to stabilize themselves and protect themselves from the cruelties of the world.
And then I watched as feminism fought to allow women in the army.
So as I found the quote of Sigmund Freud asking what women really want, I had an epiphany that he didn’t actually enter a deep phenomenon of the universe- because there is one thing they work on and succeed at consistently, indefinetely.
They annoy the piss out of me until I don’t give a shit about anything at all anymore.
Another philosophical dillemma I take pride in solving.
Thanks Gaiaguerrilla, for one of the best posts I’ve read on this site. Very enjoyable line of reasoning. 
[size=85](For the record, you guys piss us off sometimes too.)[/size]
Deep down, Anita, we’re all child molestors and psychopaths.
But we are excellent actors and (so far) scientists. There’s something to be said for the simplicity of the truly grotesque side in humanity.
And why are guys such better standup comedians?
Why are guys so much better at everything…?
We attempt to make up for what we lack–the ability to directly create life and propagate our specie.
Unfortunately, most women are too dumb nowadays to realize their true power and potential in the social sphere.
That leaves a multitude of women to be taken advantage of and molested by men. So be it.