When has there ever been “no selection pressure before”??? It’s always existed.
Can you explain what you mean? Selection pressure has always existed (ontologically prior to unconscious whying), or unconscious whying has always existed (ontologically prior to selection pressure)?
Question. When we become conscious of our whying… is it bad faith to run with it… or just bad faith when we don’t admit we’re consciously running with it (“getting with the program”)?
Life spends 99.9999% of its time struggling to survive. Before the development of Intelligence, simple-cell organisms organize and collect in order to gain autonomy, such as self-locomotion, like how Vegetation bends toward light sources (for photosynthesis). Simple organisms are barely ‘conscious’ at all. Consciousness and Intelligence is the (by)product of Evolution. The first forms or manifestations of Consciousness are simply Perception / Awareness, such as light detection in algae or other species of vegetation, again for Photosynthesis.
Life begins to “move toward the Light”. This is when evolution produces Perception in organic life.
“Self-Conscious” comes much, much later, only recently in Humanity, and most likely as another (by)product of Apex Predators ability to produce “free time”, an ability to destress and relax, which is also extremely rare in Nature. The ability to destress, begins the ability to self-reflect and build ‘Imagination’.
always existed… or developed
can’t have the latter w/o the former
They’re not mutually exclusive. To exist is also to develop.
Sheet music is just like the formula for photosynthesis. And maybe even finely tuned laws of nature are just like that, too. But they all operate within certain limits/laws that exist(s) regardless of the context—the condition for the possibility of context—but at the same time, it wouldn’t exist if context didn’t exist. They exist together, eternally in some sense. The context could have been otherwise, but it had to have been. …ultimately because love is not love without demonstration (context).
Or at least to unfold a revelation/demonstration to consenting seekers.
I agree with that. That’s using VR or simulation analogously. It’s like what Donald Hoffman calls “the interface theory of perception (ITP)”. This follows the tradition of using the latest technology to be a metaphor for the human mind. Each perceptual system is a user interface like the desktop of computer. The interface is shaped by natural selection. It varies from species to species, and even from individual to individual within species. But in this metaphor fitness beats truth (FBT). In other words, evolution by natural selection does not favor true perceptions. “Instead, natural selection favors perceptions that hide the truth and guide useful action.” So yeah, the reality that we perceive is virtual.
you are blending herd behavoir into faith, as one thing. They are two separate things.
Herd behavoir, causes them to make the choice of having faith.
Herd behavoir comes first, and then the faith.
you are using a different definition of faith.
the one im using is
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belief in gravity is something I would call a “reasonable assumption”. You don’t need “faith” in gravity. Gravity does the same thing 100% of the time so it is simply reasonable to assume that gravity will keep doing gravity things.
“faith” in gravity requires that there are gravity skeptics. And to put “faith” in something means you set aside your skepticism of that thing.
yeah but im not sure if have faith in Hoffman’s theories, or at least his ability to explain them in an understandable way.
It sounds like he is saying that “everything is fake”, but that is not as what I say when I say “the world is fake”. When I say the world is fake I mean it is a VR, and our brains may be in a vat in a lab or like the Matrix movie for all we know.
For example, in a videogame, lets say you are in the world and see a car. The car is fake it is just some code. But the car really does exist, on your screen, and has the behavoirs of a car. Hoffman seems to be saying, the car does not exist, it has only code, nothing about the car exists. But I’m saying the car really does exist, as an object on your screen. It sounds like Hoffman is saying everything is a hallucination, like if you see a car, it is just something pretending to be a car, and could really be an orange, in reality. I’m saying its not a hallucination, VR is not a hallucination, a car is not secretly an orange, there is actually a car-thing in the VR, the car is real, but it is a VR car.
Just say you’re an idealist, man. But then tell me, whose idea is it? …and are they real?
Have fun in the bottomless rabbit hole.
It’s like karma without a scorekeeper. And yes, I did just dis karma.
karma: 0
me: ∞
Stick around & stop spamming. That helps other animals.
Quotes in the studio:
- What Nietzsche said about Chaos, about Nothingness.
- What Nietzsche said about the necessity of humans for the Universe.
- A quote where Nietzsche acknowledges the universe as a rational personality of God.
Conclusion: You are a blatant liar and a pathetic deceiver.
You are unable to define what life is. That’s why you try to describe what life should be, in your opinion.
If I am living then is the action of my life also a definition of life?
The meaning of “Life” is the sum total of all life, for all time and existence.
No. Animals also live. Does this mean that animals understand that they live and understand what life is? Are you an animal? Or is only the level of your thinking selectively lowered to the level of animal thinking? A human, when they don’t know something, asks. An animal, obviously, is incapable of asking. Are you an animal?
The separating factor between animal and human is level of consciousness. Animals, depending on which ones.. operate at different levels of conscious being, primarily in the unconscious/subconscious categories, which is primarily if not all, instinctual. A human, has all three levels of consciousness.
Unconscious > Subconscious > Consciousness
And in order to understand one’s own consciousness, one must externalize it, that is where the first religious beliefs and doctrine truly came from.. mankind externalizing their own psyche and its relation with reality, then calling it god.
All things that exist, are living, just varying degrees of consciousness. But, all is connected via this web.
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How so? Let’s see those quotes. Let’s see if Nietzsche is consistent, or all over the place.
Faith; I know of no animal excluding us which is fooled by Religion
The Demon is not a follower of Nietzsche. Not a follower of pantheism or any ‘ism’ in principle. The Demon is, in fact, no one’s follower. Can you comprehend this? The Demon is ahead of the human race, or rather—above it.