What is I? No, what is Information?

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I’ll tell you what the “I” really is.

The “I” is close, the real answer is “Information”.

When we say “Us”, again we’re close, the real answer is “Universe”.

People are “pieces” to a “puzzle” (Universe).

If you observe how angry people with no control tend to control other people to compensate for their lack of control, you can see the Universe’s evolution between two entire different stages of the Universe. One stage is the “virus” to our humanity called “anger, fear and the obscure”. Those who imprison others for this sick sense of comfort are not doing this on a human level - this is a subatomic event that happens in the Universe. The lowest stages of universal development (i.e red frequency) don’t let its energy free - it CONSUMES & IMPRISONS life. Then throughout time, it grows out of its red frequency, reaching higher frequencies, which create qualities of “humanity”, (i.e green & blue frequencies). That’s when consumption and imprisonment is no longer a “thing” - it’s the “past”. People who cage anything are subconsciously representing their own “caged-mind”. It sounds absurd, but heed my word, everything we do on this macro level has ties to the subatomic and super-atomic world - as above; so below.

That said, the “I” is simply based entirely on what “we learned”. Not “what we want to be”. Not “what others want us to be”. We are information - information comes from somewhere; the Universe. There is no way to define ourselves without using everything outside of ourselves as relation points to understand ourselves through the rest of the world. We need objects and concepts to cross-relate ourselves with, else we have no cross-implication. We cannot understand the individuality of an object/concept unless we have objects around it to say “it’s not the objects around it, so let’s call it X”.

The “I” is interesting because it cannot answer the question “Who am I”. I once had a dream of the shadow archetype answering this question in a way that may surprise you: “If you say you know me, then you don’t know me. If you think you know me, then you probably know me.” I was told by a shadowy figure in my dreams words wiser than any man’s on this planet. The subconscious is a connection to this Universe’s subconscious. Hence why we do not go to ideas - ideas come to us. Geniuses repeatedly demonstrated daydreaming inventions and coming up with ideas in the strangest of places - all those times, we say it was their idea - but was it really? Or was it the Universe communicating through great minds?

The “I” is based on consciousness. Consciousness is based on water and electricity formulating pictures via the brain, because water can “reflect” - our eyes, brain and body have a close-knit relationship with “water”. Water is so important to consider as consciousness, that when you cry, different tears represent different reasons of crying. I’m not even joking - research that when you can, so you can see that our tears are designed much like everything else. I can prove that water can produce life, like consciousness because amoebas produce serotonin chemicals - those chemicals create “humanity” and make “humanity” possible. Not only that, serotonin becomes melotonin, which is what creates those profound dreams we experience at night - another piece of evidence that “water” is manning our perception, our consciousness and our experience of “I” or “Information”. The brain bathes in chemicals when we sleep which to no surprise, made up of 99% “water”. The next time you interact with water - look deeply into it, because you’re staring at the fundamental creators of life. Respect it - as I respect it. Acknowledge it - as I acknowledge it. Live for water, not let water live for you - as I live for water, not let water live for me.

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well, whater ya know!

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HatingMeIsEasier

So the “I” can be found in a book? The “I” to you is “fact”?
Or are you speaking about how the brain gathers and interprets information/the world?

No, the universe is to me actually more a “thou”. Though it can be experienced as a “we” or even an “I” myself - as an experience.

I think I would compare us more to the fishies in the sea or the ocean. As "I"s we are multitudinous and legion.

That’s Psychology 101, don’t you think? But I wonder, who can they control other than those who have no control or very little or are uncertain!

Could subatomic be another expression for subconscious?
We can only hope.

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But we humans have the capacity to backpedal or to recede ebb like the ocean. We mimic the ocean in ways. Water…

You may have a point there, insofar as human beings go. But let’s face it, some animals / birds, do need to be caged, don’t they? Well, personally I see nothing wrong with letting everything run free - but within its own backyard. I don’t want any bears or lions or wolves (well, maybe I’d love a wolf, the real wolf I mean in my backyward).

Are you getting down to quarks here? Is that the word?

You mean according to what people think it is. It’s also based on what we think and who we think we are. But in a sense, what we’ve learned can also become a part of who we are as a process.

Our concrete "I"s are also based on what we want to be.

That too. Our "I"s swim in very mixed-up waters but they’re water, nevertheless.

This is true. We need to interface with other human beings and with nature and the universe at large to come to know ourselves in part, to experience ourselves.

But the subconscious does try to point that out to us in bits and pieces, trying to give us a glimmer or a hint of the “I”. I don’t think we answer the question of “Who AM I” as much as we do “Who Am I becoming ad infinitum”.

lol That sounds more to me like two human people speaking with one another. Maybe the shadow archtype would simply say: “Take a look. What do you see”. It’s not the way, it’s just a sign. Maybe I didn’t say that right.

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I’m not a genius, I don’t know. I was once told by a shadow figure, a voice in a dream, to "follow the roots of that tree (over there) and you will come to the crystal cave. After a few more ongoing dreams of the same dream, I found that crystal cave. What a great disappointment it was to me. Not knowing what to expect but I suppose I expected something wonderful but I didn’t get any more than what is seen in the typical world - buying and selling, nothing but a typical materialistic capitalist world.

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The “I” IS consciousness flowing.

I can see that. The electricity might be those dancing networks of the brain and neurons.

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You mean having to do with the different chemicals which scientists might find in different tears? I suppose that’s possible - very interesting too.

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Maybe I’m not understanding you here. But we know that without water, there would be no life, at least not as we know it here on Earth.
You’re not saying that consciousness produces life - life comes first and then comes consciousness (hopefully).
In what way does serotonin create humanity - unless you’re simply saying that serotonin being part of the brain, is part of being human. I don’t know. :blush:
On the other side of that coin, serotonin - too much or too little of it, can destroy humanity, also make us less human. Just a thought.

I think that water’s effect on the brain can map our perceptions and sensations and add to our "I"s. Water to me is incredibly awesome, for lack of a better way to put it. I would compare it to music’s effect, especially that of classical music’s effect on my brain - like Barber’s adagio - ah, how that effects me, like the ocean effects me.

Well, that I didn’t know and I still don’t know. Is the brain really made of 99% water?

lol Water is like a door into the spiritual (not god). It’s also astounding how beautiful illusions can be effected through its interface with the sun.

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The I is Information, so yes; “you” are the world within itself as the world is itself within “you”.

When you cause a crowd of people to break apart, they break apart like gas molecules. It’s a subatomic chain reaction on a macro scale - there is no “us” - there can only be “Universe”.

Research Riemann’s Hypothesis. It is a mystery to the greatest of minds to this day. I figured out the meaning philosophically, not mathematically. The formula represents this Universe’s mathematical properties on both, its reality and its “sub-reality”, a.k.a “the imagination”. The formula demonstrates how ghost numbers in fractions can lead up to the same sum as real numbers used in science. Meaning that imagination is based on mathematical perfection as well.

It’s the small ideas that lead to the grand ideas.

Our “human experience” is animated by the “subatomic experience”.

Everything you see outside of this planet is the “super-atomic experience”.

Our brains are born and behave likened to how the Universe was born and how it behaves. (i.e dark matter is to the Universe as ignorance is to Us).

The Universe’s greatest creations have space from its other creations, great or not. Learn from this Universe’s design - become it and you will become god.

Of course I am. Quarks represent how some people are simply random with no mathematical design to their character and others do.

All that we are - is, was and will be.

There is no concrete “I”. Any wise man or genius will tell you that much. I also can mathematically break down the Universe for you and explain to you why we are “identityless entities”.

All thought to be established comprehension of self are all thought incorrectly.

The “self” is not “one” - the “self” is “all in one”.

There cannot be a “identity” in what has no “contrast”, for it “is”.

Perhaps you expect too much from the dream, like a child expects too much from art.

The I is like a hurricane ( a tornado made of water).

In the center we have “peace”; outside of that center we have “chaos”.

Our Solar System is the same way.

We are the same way.

All is connected to the “eternal eye”.

Consciousness emerged from the Universe’s subconscious. Of course consciousness did not create life - The Universe’s fundamental properties created life.

Scientific fact.

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Just this for now…

I agree with you here. Our concrete "I"s was based on the perception of most people though it’s difficult not to think of our selves or our identities as something other than what is more concrete rather than what is like fluid and flows.

I’ll be back.

Break it down for me.

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The ‘I’ is like a radio which receives information, it has no size nor dimension bar those delivered by its perception. A bit like in general relativity where gravity doesn’t exist, it and all other forces are a matter of comparative perspectives.

In short, not everything is in boxes. The consciousness is not an object nor like water nor gas ~ because there are no objects and the classifications of water/fluids or air/gases are merely comparatives.

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Consciousness behaves like water.

Comes from the Universe which is based entirely on water (water vapor is a form of water).

Water can turn into gas, solid and liquid.

Water reflects - consciousness reflects.

The chemicals that create dreams consist of 99% water.

Those chemicals are produced by amoebas.

There is no reason to deny consciousness as a result created by water unless you’re scientifically illiterate.

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lol ok :-"

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Look, if you want me to use my mathematical formulas to prove to you with numbers, like these:

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I will. Maybe not for you, since you are not willing to be honest with yourself and accept the fact that consciousness is scientifically related to water based on molecular associations that were allocated by this Universe’s evolutionary traits over time. I mean amoebas are producing “human chemicals” - AMOEBAS, are the ONLY reason why we are “human”. Do you have any idea how incredible this Universe is, or are you too busy waving it off because "damn it, I can’t argue with someone who does their research, man I hate being wrong; is there anything I can do to earn my individual place in this god forsaken society, what does it take to become successful! Geez, lying and making stuff up sure looks easy, it’s not like I understand life enough to be responsible for the repercussions so let’s just call it the “unbeknownst quest”. But I will for others and myself because I’m not here to play games - I am here to end the games and help people return back to reality. It’s time people with examples rise above the people with excuses - and my friend, “lol ok” is an excuse; everything I’ve said is an example.

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Here it is, my formula for water and its connections to many powerful numbers that represent this Universe’s mathematical design as well as peak the numerical scale with a load of 9’s, a fancy 42 and the number “145” as the sum of my entire equation to top it all off:

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Sry for being churlish

The science represents the chemical interactions, water alone has no other properties than water.

Consciousness operates in many areas of the brain at once, water does not it always works locally and in the particular. It is more akin to quantum fluidity than water or even air.

The universe is majoritively dark matter/energy, not water.

Energy can turn into gas, solid, liquid, and additionally consciousness, perception, concepts and ideas [mental info]. Water cannot! …for the same reasons that we don’t really live in a world of objects ~ because there is no way an object can >be< a concept nor idea.

We know that in our minds informations of the world translates into mental informations, at least enough for us to have a true-ish representation of what is going on our there [same as a camcorder at least][in the world]. There would be no way to achieve that if physical information was object based. Besides, we both know that worldly objects are empty and at the simplest level vague in form.

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Forgiven.

That said, you’re making the mistake in not acknowledging the evolutionary system that is this Universe. Yes, water in different forms of application via the Universe may seem like it’s irrelevant to each other, however as evidence by the human being’s relationship with the animal and its characteristics as per the evolutionary stages of life, hence why we are 90% fungi and plant, as well as the relationship between water and lava demonstrating an interchangeable system wherein a chemical that is found in water alternates the state of water in order to create “lava” - we call it lava, which makes us say “it’s not water; it’s lava” - therefore linguistically we are incompetent because lava is the result of an interchanging property called water, yet we persist on saying lava is not water and water is not lava; feigning the evolutionary interchanges between two subatomic forces on two sides of the same coin! Therefore the same applies to our consciousness’ relationship with water - yes, water does not behave in the same manner - yes, consciousness is not “literally water” - however, this Universe is design-prone, therefore consciousness is entirely designed off of water. Think of it as something like a predecessor to an application - that’s what everything is now, like birds and dogs are based on dinosaurs then.

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Are you thinking of water as an element in the alchemical sense? Or as some manner of metaphoric property ~ i mean like the philosophers stone or something?

interesting.

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I am referring to water as it intrinsically performs within our bodies; a result based on amoebas, our pineal gland and this Universe’s incredible ability to create something like water via this formula: