what is romance?

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Maybe no one your age, but I suspect actual romance at your age is a bit rare.

And I take it that you believe that a human being is no more than a bunch of atoms?

The deconstruction process is one of defining, quantizing, and focusing on internal components and ignoring their flow and order (aka “spirit” and “soul”). If one deconstructs a human being, he gets a bunch of atoms and loses his humanity. If one deconstructs romance, he gets a bunch of survivalist strategies and loses his romance.

Of course, since machines are to replace humans, it makes sense to go ahead and reduce everything into mechanical terms, else someone might think that your machines aren’t romantic enough, or not human enough. We can’t have people seeing any difference in themselves and their upcoming replacement, else they might not go along with their demise.

Why do I suspect that you don’t have a lot of love in your life. :confused:

If you don’t live for love, you WILL live for money/influence/power… and still never seem to have enough, dying disappointed and equally as forgotten.

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Ty, just like you see romance and love as the deconstructed and confused components of lustful gain, I see the lust for power and money as the deconstructed and confused efforts of love. And just like matter and energy, in the long run, matter is made of energy. Love isn’t made of money. Money and power are made from love and romance.

The lust for money merely allows loveless people to gain more influence… creating a loveless world of power struggles.

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James, for all your high ideals and noble prescriptions, it changes nothing of the current reality that we live in. Your words are pointless exchanges.

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ty-----why in the world would you say that james words were pointless exchanges…why are you so angry…how are you feeling…

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Pointless because it does nothing to change or understand the reality of the world we live in. I live in reality not fantasy.

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Emm… are you trying to imply that Your words are actually changing something… “in reality”?

…got any examples? :-s

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No, I am just expressing my opinions here.

If you want anything in life that is what actions are for. Words are meaningless and only useful to a small degree. This is sport. For me this is all just a learning exercise exchanging words and opinions here.

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Everyone has opinions, usually given to them by the media of the day. I was tempted earlier to ask for your reasoning behind your opinions, but I figured your answer was too predictable.

Philosophy is about reasoning. Words are used to convey. As you noted, every action has intent, although seldom a consciously rational one.

What is the rationale for deconstructing romance into a very mechanistic Darwinian struggle for survival of the fittest? Your opinion is that “it is the truth”. Of course, there are a great many truths. There must be a point, a purpose for promoting a cold hearted perspective. Telling the “truth” isn’t it. What really comes from someone merely telling the truth regardless of the consequences? Isn’t it the consequences that determines rational behavior and purpose in actions such as speaking?

I have no problem with analyzing romance, or love or just about anything. And if asked, I seldom have a problem discussing the cold logic behind the warm fuzzies. But there is an interesting thing about logic. It doesn’t relate to nor dictate intent or purpose, merely mechanical facts. But more importantly, when people attempt logic or merely hear it, they don’t really hear all of it, and seldom comprehend all of it. What they do is “take away” a sense of it, a feeling and attitude. The attitude is usually set by the tone of the speaker and the few facts they payed attention to. Creating their attitude is the purpose.

Thus the consequences of telling the truth can vary from extremely good to extremely bad, all depending on the circumstances. It seems that the intent lately is to promote the lack of romance and love. And for what purpose? Who does that really serve? Certainly not you.

It just reminds me of those promoting the Ubermench. The only thing to be gained by promoting the Ubermench is your own enslavement. That seems a silly thing for a person to be promoting, “We need a stronger more cold hearted slave mater, Now!!” And the only thing to be gained by promoting the lack of love, is the lack of love, lack of compassion, lack of anyone giving a shit if you live or die… and usually preferring the latter as it yields more opportunity for their own prospects.

If one thinks that romance is all about strategies, perhaps one should more carefully study the more serious strategies and his own unwitting participation in them.

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That proves nothing at all. Give it up already.

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Romance is giving up in supplication. When you hit your bottom, and you begin to know, or you suddenly realize what love is, that you didn’t just discover it, it was there all the time like a diamond in the rough.

Do you fear it? The responsibility of error trumped by this over bearing force of eternal love which is the overcomer? Do you?

Go find god, the superman. It is around the whipers of the thousand year old saquoias cutting a blue whisp, the tremor of the ages as silent language telling you to let it be?

It is in the fearful eyes of children, in the hidden laughter when you know, it doesen’t matter one way or another , if hey think you are just another clown.

When some sad, anxiety filled day, you feel yourself, what you really are, that you have nothing, nothing else , to give, then the dawn will break, the romance begin.

It is through hidden but obvious lessons, of the most important things : that the son of god reveals himself. It is in fact. It’s own silver lining.

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If I wanted to prove something to a hammer, I would romance it with a nail and a brush.

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What’s the brush for?

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Persuasion… subtle adjustments.

“You might be able to nail my heart…
… but first take me to dinner.”

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This is romance.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au1Wzwe7e-o[/youtube]

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Romance is a money deposit machine in the shape of a female’s vagina.

Please insert money here in order to gain access. I’m sorry, but we accept cash only not fictional idealistic and romantic novelties. Come back again when you are financially viable. Have a nice day! Would you like to try to insert money again?

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I’m sorry, but you must be atleast this high in the social class sphere to gain entrance.

Your yearly credit score does not match price discovery for minimum access.

Have a nice day!

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Everything costs money dude. But you get what you pay for. A hooker is 100 bucks, an attractive woman who lives in your house and does what you say could cost you well more than half of what you ever make. A lot of people go for an unattractive woman who lives in the house and doesn’t do what they say. It’s cheaper, but it’s just a terrible fate. At least if the bitch is going to be ugly, she should do what the guy says who’s feeding her. Then there’s the 300-1000 dollar hookers. That’s a nice medium. If you like your space, you can have an attractive bitch come over and do what you say, and then leave. What you really want is a smart girl with low self esteem. She’ll keep herself pretty and constantly seek your validation, so long as you give it to her, you can probably get her into a good job…especially if she’s really pretty. Then before you know it, if you pull all the strings just right, you can have a hot bitch, doing what you say, living in your house, (but giving you space because she’s at work all day), and paying the rent. Think about it man.

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I understand what you are saying, but I don’t like hookers. They’re the used diseased trash excess of the street. I like myself a younger barely touched woman in her early twenties or late teens myself.

I like messing around with something that just came off the assembly line if you know what I mean. I don’t want a used second hand product.

Marriage of course is for suckers. She would have to be a phenomenal woman to keep around for a long time and considering most women nowadays are less than that I just don’t see it happening. I prefer variety really which means expiriencing a lot of women for my enjoyment.

Yes, on the other parts of your posts also. I just like pointing out that romance has everything to do with power and money with nothing to do with personality types or other novel ideals.

People will sell out their personalities, soul, and their own mother down the street if it means getting in a relationship where power and influence is predominant. Especially true for 99.9% of all women who are very predictable.

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Saying you don’t like hookers is the same thing as saying you don’t like women. You don’t think you have to pay those, “fresh off the assembly line” hos?

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Yes smears, let’s be absolutely real: how can we raise the question of liking or disliking hookers unto the same level as thinking our relationship to tem as som$e kind of romantic notion?

 Granted, conceivably you can fall for a hooker, but she may not at all reciprocate in your emotional orientation toward them. In fact she is only going for it because of the payment for service rendered, and frankly, she just "loves" her pimp because he gives her comfort, drugs, and all the other benefits hookers require for the maintenance.

How can a man be said to be romantically involved with a woman, who has absolutely no idea of what romance is, and she is  merely playing the romantic angle to squeeze additional money out of the john?