Maybe the incel (I personally think that is a doofusy label given by people who overemphasize the wrong thing… every time somebody says that, my IQ drops below zero) is upset with being labeled and so they lash out at people who own their labels? It’s a way of feeling better about themselves because at least they aren’t those labels? They can’t just feel confidant about themselves just as they are. They have to get rid of the dissonance caused by being labeled and lash out at someone else.
Why the incels in particular though?
Why do incels hate the LGBTQ community? Why does anyone hate them? Because they are insufferable narcissists who abuse victim narratives to get their way on the level of law and government now (bless and honor the exceptions).
It has nothing to do with their sexual preferences.
Its their character and personality mixed in with a bunch of social media stereotypes and tribalism, and dont act like this is somehow special because every group is shitting all over every other group online, whether its music, movies, language, gender, race, country, anime, scifi, fantasy, fiction, religion, god’s left nut or satan’s ass crack.
Hell even within the LGBTQ community you have groups shitting over eachother at full force, so what makes this so particular about incels and lgbtq?
I would say that it would be an incorrect prejudice because it isn’t all of them. Even the label itself is incorrect. You seem to be accepting it as evident. But I can see where the original post is coming from because I am aware of a certain mindset it correctly describes — that happens in actual minds. That’s why I mentioned the tirades on social media. It’s also why I suggested (in another thread) not reading the comments on YouTube, and said I bet the majority of them (I also hyperbolically said all of them) are middle-aged drunks. …and I stand by that.
You worry about yourself and don’t return evil for evil, how about that?
Yes, but the same goes for the incels and every other group in existence.
Its never “ALL” of them. There are always exceptions to every group and they will be disregarded because they are exceptions.
And i can reverse this sentence and make it accurate in regards of the LGBTQ community as well.
I am aware of a certain mindset, i am correctly describing, that has actual minds.
This is not an argument, you are just saying that you have more hands on experience with one stereotype than you do with the other.
Arent you returning evil by default when you play the stereotype game?
You just said that you think you are justified in the way you describe the incels.
And i think i am justified in the way i am describing the lgbtq community.
This is a both or neither game.
You can either say that all groups consist of individuals and all individuals should be judged based upon their own individual merit and disposition… or you dont and its a free for all game where one group shits all over another with complete disregard to collateral damage.
This latter being the default option on social media.
Im just saying. You can have one or the other, but not both.
It will never work out when you stereotype one group and you think that nobody can do the same to yours.
You have to talk to someone within their frame of reference in order to get them out of it. That doesn’t mean you’re playing the stereotype game.
This is about what is essential to one’s capacity as a person (deserving of recognition, regardless all differences), versus the societal/cultural variations on biological themes. Even when diversity is corrupted to moral divergence, the person underneath the corruption is still worthy of recognition.
True, but you also have to bridge the frame of reference between theirs and yours. Not just get into their own framing. That serves no purpose.
When the bridge is possible, sure. And needed.
So where does that leave us in regards of group stereotypes?
treat every person as a person
Very good. Then lets toss group dynamics and stereotypes.
teamwork makes the dream work