Just something I read by Marvin Minsky, which I found very entertaining. Its kind of long but it is split up into smaller sections. I figured it would lead to a good conversation. just copy and paste. Check it out. web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/papers … herit.html
The only successful Eugenics program so far has been canine. Due to ethical fears we have not touched other species so much and it is a tabboo to consider any program yet for humans… Which in my point of view is a safety thing… Right now science has not developed enough answers on a physical level… Everything is still pure research. We need to get smaller processes down pat. I can live with the ethic tabboos until then. We need them. Nano technology, Eugenics and transplants can combine to create a pseudo human. Our child species.
On the research channel I listened to an interesting lecture about this subject in a way… Stem cell research. Fascinating I plan on watching the second half today if I can. The way a stem cell can change certain cells into a different cell is fantastic. A stem cell can take a muscle cell and turn it into a blood cell, A bone cell can become a skin cell… OK I have over simplified it but, it is really cool what they have done on studies with mice and I think it was a salamander. On regeneration of limbs and changing cells and taking stem cells from one creature and putting it with cells from another… Really cool stuff.
But really a sufficient breeding program of humans would be the best way to go… We already have sperm and egg banks. Just start breeding from the donaters… Any corporation can buy these donations… It is amazing if they are not doing it already.
Ah, a better answer. They will not inherit it.
They will pry it from our meatbag hand 
Until we have a MUCH deeper understanding of our own consciousness, we will not be able to ‘put’ it into a computer or robot. It’ll be a while yet. I wish I could see 200 or 500 years into the future to see the ideas of the great philosophers and scientists finally reaching the mindless masses. It may take another 1,000 years for religion to finally truly die out. But it will happen.
I think by the time we figure out what our own conscious is, we will have already begun using computers to simulate parts of our brain that may have gone defective. In other words, we will keep using the robots until they are us and we are them. We will not keep wholly separate from them.
Yes, yes, and yes. My forcast as well.
I’ve managed to get through the first section and it’s so littered with half-truths and nonsense that I’m not bothering with the rest of it. What a crock of shite. It’s the equivalent of saying ‘we don’t understand light so there’s no way of creating it’. Um, fire? Marvin L. Minsky is delusional at best, a fucking idiot at worst.
Bane, your niavety is so sweet I almost cried.
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This article bears on our rights to have children, to change our genes, and to die if we so wish. No popular ethical system yet, be it humanist or religion-based, has shown itself able to face the challenges that already confront us. How many people should occupy Earth? What sorts of people should they be? How should we share the available space? Clearly, we must change our ideas about making additional children. Individuals now are conceived by chance. Someday, though, they could be ‘composed’ in accord with considered desires and designs. Furthermore, when we build new brains, these need not start out the way ours do, with so little knowledge about the world. What sorts of things should our mind-children know? How many of them should we produce- -and who should decide their attributes?
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having children is a natural right given by nature. it’s creating an extension of you. it’s born of the love between two partners. the process is fundamental to being human. i wouldn’t step on that for other people, and if the government tried to prevent me from having children i would consider the government to be a threat; an enemy.
overpopulation isn’t caused by too many people having children, it’s caused by anti-natural behavior.
as for genetic manipulation and transhumanism (such as ‘building new brains’), i’m very libertarian, but other people’s right to move their fists ends where my nose starts. humanity and the world itself is my context for living. i am nothing without that. and when humanity is replaced by ignorant genetic butchering and made into disgusting, half-alive cyborgs, that affects me. you are free to be wrong and think that biology is no better than machines, or that you can pick genes apart and manipulate them piecemeal with no adverse affects, but when you and everyone else starts acting on those ideas, let’s just say that in a hearbeat I’ll be the John Connar to your Skynet.