Inspired, by the way, by similar programs in the US and France. In France it failed, because it didn’t go hand in hand with certain other things that the US did do.
Ditching the gold standard for one.
That the Germans did do early, and it did help some.
Buy early, I mean 20’s, pre national socialism.
Devaluing currency. Also something the grmans (preHitler) did do, also something which helped.
But with the Germans it was tricky, because devaluin makes more sense when you’re an exporter, and they were always importers. They were aware of this, but they needed to try something.
Yes I am aware that 1933 is within the period of the 1930s, thanks for pointing that out. 
Bro has never even heard of the “Economic Miracle”, not something you find written about very often in “history buff” publications, I’d imagine. But notice how its been cleverly rebranded to mean post-WW2 instead of pre-WW2. “What others accuse you of doing, accuse them first” and deliberate reversals of the truth, even by using other truths to paste over it, are quite commonplace.
What Lorkeet said about the 6 million number is very true, by the way. Not that I suspect you know what I’m talking about.
In terms of economic recovery, Germany took over its own currency and minted their own debt-free currency that was based on ‘work credits’ and not on debt. Unemployment went to zero, also in part because Hitler made it illegal to be unemployed lol. Hell, they eventually just nationalized the international banks and arrested Baron Rothschild, lol.
Because it was only ever a term in official national socialist propaganda lol. All I know is figures and policies.
It wasn’t currency, it was bonds. And it also wasn’t a national socialist creation, it was that finance minister I mentioned earlier.
But, worse of all, it didin’t even work. It simply functioned as a vehicle for companies to bid for regulatory breaks and get government contracts. Buy the bonds, get preference. This is also a classic socialist tool by the way, to this day.
The idea was that you pay workers and companies with these bonds, instead of money. The bond’s value is based on expected future growth. But what growth, lol if there is no actual money and the work they got payed for with that was building an unproductive army. It was just pushing the ball forward while destroying all industry.
When you went to the Hitlerites to claim the bonds, only the special few, the trv ass kissers, were paid. The rest were told to suck it up, growth will come. Some day.
Maybe if we invade Poland first.
They had no actual cash. The bonds were valueless paper.
Hahahahaha it was a way to pay workers without paying them.
Why cash? Cash is a Jewish conspiracy. Take this worthless paper instead. An iow for value you will have to have created during the time you were actually just making useless bullets.
Socialists. God bless their beautiful souls.
World War 1 was triggered by a complex set of events and factors. The immediate cause of the war was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary on June 28, 1914, in Sarajevo by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb nationalist. In response to the assassination, Austria-Hungary issued an ultimatum to Serbia, blaming the Serbian government for supporting anti-Austrian activities. When Serbia’s response was deemed unsatisfactory, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia on July 28, 1914.
Europe was divided into two major alliance systems: the Triple Entente (France, Russia, and the United Kingdom) and the Triple Alliance (Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Italy). When Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, the alliances came into play, drawing other nations into the conflict. As part of the Schlieffen Plan, Germany invaded Belgium on August 4, 1914, in an attempt to quickly defeat France. This violation of Belgian neutrality prompted the United Kingdom to declare war on Germany.
In the following days, a cascade of declarations of war occurred as nations honoured their alliance commitments. Russia, Germany, France, and the United Kingdom were the major powers involved in the initial stages. The rapid mobilisation of military forces and the interconnected system of alliances led to a chain reaction of declarations of war. Russia’s mobilisation against Germany prompted Germany to declare war on Russia and then on Russia’s ally, France.
Over time, more nations joined the conflict. The Ottoman Empire, Bulgaria, Italy (which switched sides from the Triple Alliance to the Triple Entente in 1915), and others entered the war, expanding it into a global conflict. The war quickly became a brutal and protracted conflict characterised by trench warfare on the Western Front. Neither side was able to achieve a decisive victory, leading to a prolonged stalemate. These events collectively set the stage for World War I, a devastating conflict that lasted from 1914 to 1918.
Several factors contributed to the conclusion of the war. By late 1918, Germany was facing internal strife, economic hardships, and a shortage of resources. The blockade imposed by the Allied forces had severely weakened the German economy and military. The entry of the United States into the war in 1917 had a significant impact. American troops, resources, and industrial capabilities bolstered the Allied forces, tipping the balance in their favour.
The Allies launched a series of successful offensives in 1918, known as the Hundred Days Offensive. These offensives, conducted by the British, French, and American forces, pushed back the German army on the Western Front. Facing increasing military pressure and internal dissent, the Central Powers, particularly Germany and Austria-Hungary, began to crumble. Revolts and unrest within Germany, coupled with the exhaustion of its military, contributed to the decision to seek an armistice.
The German Revolution of 1918-1919 led to the abdication of Emperor Wilhelm II and the establishment of the Weimar Republic. The revolutionary atmosphere and the demand for peace influenced the German government’s decision to negotiate an armistice. Armistice negotiations began in October 1918. The German government, under the leadership of Chancellor Max von Baden, requested an armistice based on President Woodrow Wilson’s “Fourteen Points,” which outlined principles for a just and lasting peace.
The Armistice was signed in a railway carriage in Compiègne Forest, France, on November 11, 1918. The agreement called for an immediate cessation of hostilities on the Western Front, and it came into effect at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. The Armistice marked the end of the fighting, but the formal peace negotiations took place at the Paris Peace Conference. The Treaty of Versailles, signed on June 28, 1919, officially ended the state of war between Germany and the Allied powers. The treaty imposed harsh terms on Germany, including territorial losses, disarmament, and reparations.
The end of World War I profoundly impacted the geopolitical landscape, setting the stage for a new world order. However, the terms of the peace settlement, as outlined in the Treaty of Versailles and other related agreements, also contributed to long-term consequences that contributed to the outbreak of World War II.
The Treaty of Versailles, signed in 1919, imposed severe and punitive terms on Germany. It included territorial losses, disarmament, and substantial reparations. The harsh terms fuelled resentment and bitterness among the German population, contributing to a sense of injustice that became a fertile ground for the rise of extremist ideologies. The establishment of the Weimar Republic in Germany faced numerous challenges, including economic difficulties, political instability, and social unrest. The combination of economic hardships, the burden of reparations, and political turmoil created a volatile environment that allowed radical ideologies, such as Nazism, to gain traction.
The First World War left Europe economically devastated. The reparations demanded from Germany exacerbated economic difficulties and contributed to the Great Depression of the 1930s. Economic hardships and widespread unemployment created social discontent, providing fertile ground for the rise of totalitarian regimes. The aftermath of World War I saw the rise of totalitarian regimes in several European countries. In Germany, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party exploited nationalist sentiments and anti-Versailles sentiments to gain power. In Italy, Benito Mussolini established a fascist regime. These regimes sought to overturn the post-war order, and their aggressive expansionist policies contributed to the tensions leading to World War II.
The League of Nations, established as a part of the post-war order to promote collective security and prevent future conflicts, proved ineffective. The absence of major powers like the United States and the League’s inability to enforce its decisions weakened its authority. This failure highlighted the challenges of maintaining international cooperation and preventing aggression.
The war led to the collapse of several empires, including the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, and Russian Empires. The redrawing of borders and the creation of new states in Eastern Europe and the Middle East created ethnic and territorial tensions that persisted and contributed to conflicts in the interwar period. The disarmament clauses of the Treaty of Versailles were not effectively enforced. As the 1930s progressed, Germany, under Hitler’s rule, began to rearm in violation of the treaty. Other major powers, including Italy and Japan, also pursued aggressive military policies, increasing tensions and paving the way for another global conflict.
In summary, while the end of World War I aimed to establish a new world order, the conditions imposed on Germany, economic hardships, and political instability created an environment conducive to the rise of authoritarian regimes and the eventual outbreak of World War II. The shortcomings of the post-war settlement and the failure of international institutions to prevent aggression contributed to the cycle of conflict in the 20th century.
The claim that Adolf Hitler was not to blame for World War II because he tried to make peace with many nations and sought to protect German nationals in Poland is not accurate when viewed in the broader historical context. While Hitler did engage in diplomatic manoeuvres and negotiations at various points, his expansionist and aggressive policies, as well as his violations of international agreements, were key factors that contributed to the outbreak of the war. Here are some important points to consider:
Hitler’s foreign policy, as outlined in his book “Mein Kampf” and later implemented as Chancellor of Germany, aimed at territorial expansion and establishing a Greater German Empire. The annexation of Austria (Anschluss) in 1938 and the incorporation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia later that year were clear examples of Hitler’s aggressive expansionism.
The immediate cause of World War II was Germany’s invasion of Poland on September 1, 1939. Hitler’s regime had signed a non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union (the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), allowing for the partition of Poland. The invasion marked a blatant violation of international law and diplomatic agreements. As a pretext for invading Poland, Hitler and the Nazi regime fabricated claims of Polish aggression. The Gleiwitz incident, a staged attack on a German radio station near the border with Poland, was part of this propaganda effort.
While Hitler engaged in diplomatic negotiations and made proposals, such as the “peaceful” occupation of the Free City of Danzig, these efforts were often accompanied by ultimatums and the threat of military force. In many cases, diplomatic gestures were a means to buy time for military preparations. Hitler openly violated the Treaty of Versailles by rearming Germany and reintroducing conscription. His military build-up was aggressive in nature and aimed at challenging the existing European order. Hitler’s policies extended beyond territorial ambitions. The persecution of minority groups, militarisation, and aggressive actions, such as the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1939, demonstrated a clear intent to reshape Europe through force.
While it is true that Hitler engaged in diplomatic manoeuvres, these were often deceptive tactics to advance his expansionist agenda. The invasion of Poland and subsequent military actions marked a clear departure from peaceful and negotiated solutions. The responsibility for the outbreak of World War II rests significantly on Hitler’s aggressive policies and the actions of the Nazi regime.
Don’t be replying to me Bob, I have you on ignore.
Post on your own two feet.
I have that feeling a lion has after a good hunt.
See you dorks l8r.
It says “General Discussion” and so much rubbish has been posted, I decided to take out my books and give my take on history. German sources mind!
Yes, continuous increase to their GDP each year DURING the Great Depression, leading to nearly doubling Germany’s GDP from where it was in 1933 is definitely “propaganda” lol.
What should not be forgotten is that as early as 1870, the Franco-Prussian War resulted in the collapse of the second French imperial empire and the founding of the German nation state. Germany’s military victory pushed France into a serious domestic political crisis and the founding of the German Empire at Versailles left great concerns about Germany’s intentions.
@PZR, A 5-7% increase to GDP every year, during the Great Depression mind you, reducing unemployment during that period from 40%+ to near 0% while minting your own national currency all while being under international boycotts at the behest of Zionists (who declared war on Germany first, go back and read the newspapers of the time) all the while being able to amass a military power (after being defeated in WW1 not that long ago and subsequently crushed by the Versailles treaty and hyperinflation) large enough to takeover the entire continent and then some, which would have easily ended the war if not for America joining in at the last minute. Hm, yeah.
Also keep in mind: you unironically believe the official mainstream narratives about WW2 and Germany. That’s you. Just think about that a while.
I have lots of documents connected to this issue on an old archive of mine, I can pull some of that stuff out if you need. But then again, what I said earlier still stands. I’m not here to do your thinking for you and it’s already quite sad that you’ve never even looked into this stuff before. You’re the “history buff” who likes the mainstream narratives and thinks no one is lying to him about history. Ok then. You do you.
Germany was particularly hard hit during the Great Depression, which lasted from 1929 to the mid-1930s. The economic challenges faced by Germany during this period were exacerbated by factors such as the harsh conditions imposed by the Treaty of Versailles, reparations payments, and the global economic downturn. The economic burden of these reparations, coupled with territorial losses and restrictions on Germany’s military, contributed to economic instability in the country.
In the early 1920s, Germany experienced hyperinflation, a situation where the value of the currency rapidly decreases. This led to the loss of savings and purchasing power for the German population. The government eventually stabilised the currency by introducing the Rentenmark and later the Reichsmark. In an effort to address Germany’s economic challenges and facilitate reparations payments, the Dawes Plan (1924) and the Young Plan (1929) were implemented. These plans restructured Germany’s reparations payments and provided loans, offering some financial relief and stability. Despite the challenges, Germany experienced a brief period of economic recovery in the late 1920s. This was partly due to foreign loans, the Dawes Plan, and increased foreign investment. German industries and exports saw growth during this time.
The global economic downturn, triggered by the Wall Street Crash of 1929, severely impacted Germany. As international demand for German exports plummeted and loans dried up, the German economy suffered a sharp contraction. It resulted in widespread unemployment in Germany. The economic hardships and high levels of unemployment contributed to social unrest. Political polarisation and the rise of extremist ideologies, including Nazism, gained traction as people sought solutions to their economic and social problems. The economic turmoil and political instability created an environment conducive to the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. Hitler promised to address the economic woes, restore national pride, and overturn the perceived injustices of the Treaty of Versailles.
In response to the economic challenges, the Weimar government implemented public works programs to create jobs and stimulate the economy. These efforts, however, were insufficient to fully address the scope of the economic crisis. As Hitler came to power in 1933, he pursued autarky (economic self-sufficiency) and rearmament policies. While providing some short-term economic relief, these policies were also geared toward preparing Germany for military expansion.
In summary, Germany coped with the Great Depression through a combination of economic reforms, international financial assistance, and temporary economic recovery. However, the underlying structural issues, combined with the global economic downturn, contributed to social and political upheaval, ultimately paving the way for the rise of Adolf Hitler and the outbreak of World War II.
Adolf Hitler outlined his plans for “Lebensraum” (living space) in the East in his book “Mein Kampf.” Published in 1925 and written while Hitler was imprisoned after the failed Beer Hall Putsch in 1923, “Mein Kampf” served as Hitler’s manifesto, outlining his political ideology, beliefs, and ambitions.
In “Mein Kampf,” Hitler articulated his expansionist goals, particularly regarding the acquisition of territory in Eastern Europe. He viewed Eastern Europe, especially areas populated by Slavic peoples, as vital for the expansion and prosperity of the German nation. Hitler believed that Germany needed to acquire Lebensraum to accommodate its growing population and to provide resources and land for the German people.