One of the things I like about Gnostic thinking is that we need not go to the supernatural and magical to explain the evolving perfection of reality. This reality is the best that nature, Gods and our history can produce. We are demonstrably living in the best of all possible material realities. Let’s try for better in the future. Our Gods, us and our creations, while wondrous, still can be improved.
This is perfection?
Wow!
Such low standards.
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Humans are capable of telepathy and so are other animals. It is such a rare thing that most of us never experience or create it. The lower animals respond to us but I do not see it going the other way due to the desire and intelligence required to do it.
I did not catch your conversation as yet but wanted you thinking on what follows.
Let me speak to the lie of Gnostic Christians hating matter.
I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religion’s originators.
The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, “Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]”
"If those who attract you say, ‘See, the Kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, ‘It is under the earth,’ then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
As you can see from that quote, if we see God’s kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don’t see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.
Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?
Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.
Now I understand…you are insane…one more for this on-line sanatorium.
An imperfect world with pockets of beauty…
Things could be otherwise, deluded minion…because we are participating in determining them, and we are definitely not prefect.
You are another one of those fools who claim, after the fact, that things could not have been otherwise.
A parlor trick…
Flip a coin and after I see where it lands I’ll predict the outcome.
I agree. Can you state your reasons for thinking so?
Who/description is your God?
I worship gods representing natural forces.
Sigh. How could things be otherwise?
You would have to somehow break the laws of nature and entropy.
All we can do is change what will happen. What has happened is behind us.
Seems only some recognize the Gnostic POV.
Others foolishly go into supernatural thinking instead of deeper thinking.
Things could be otherwise, foolish man…our every judgment, choice, determines a different fate.
Gnostic, you are?
A life hater…
No supernatural thinking, self-hater…natural thinking.
Laws of nature, foolish manchild, are how men understand nature.
Nature incudes chaos…Olympian gods and titanic forces that preceded them…
There is Noetic Science for proof and it happens that I have generated telepathy twice. I and one other person still live and would pass any test for truth. You do not believe. Most don’t. I do not care.
What worth is consciousness, foolish self-hater, if it is of no advantage?
Why perceive and judge at all?
Try it on me, manchild.
I’m waiting for your telepathic message.
I’m sending you my own…in the form of a single digit raised and erect…
So, what you are telling us, manchild, is that fate determined that you would be telepathic…and we not.
You were…chosen…right?
How fortunate for you…that the cosmos was so generous…only to you and a few of your buddies.
God works in mysterious ways.
Were you smoking pot, during those two magical events?
I showed the requirements. Did you read them or are you always this obtuse?
You are one dumb ass if you think I bother to lie to the stupid.
Do not call me fate.
I have always been my master and controller.
I follow the good advice from the Bible that says I know good from evil and that I should hold to the good.
Who is your master and controller/God?
If you, like me, can say I am, then welcome to adulthood.
You lie to yourself, which is stupid.
Show where or how or be seen as stupid.
You believe in what you then cannot prove…so you are a liar…a self-deceiving one.
The worse kind…because, I am sure, you actually believe the nonsense you spew.
Which makes you dangerously delusional.
If I knew what you were talking about, I might respond. Poor interlocutors cannot communicate well. They/you hide in vagueness.
Try reading my mind…