Nietzsche shortcuts

This is the main board for discussing philosophy - formal, informal and in between.

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:50 pm

Nietzsche wrote:Von der Kranken-Optik aus nach gesünderen Begriffen und Werthen, und wiederum umgekehrt aus der Fülle und Selbstgewissheit des reichen Lebens hinuntersehn in die heimliche Arbeit des Decadence-Instinkts das war meine längste Übung, meine eigentliche Erfahrung, wenn irgend worin wurde ich darin Meister.




Vollgraff, Polygnosie, §. 3, f wrote:So wie wir aber von der Gesundheit eigentlich nur durch den Gegensatz der Krankheit etwas wissen, von der Freiheit durch den Gegensatz der Un-Freiheit, so ist auch die alters-gesunde und freie Periode der Staaten erst ganz verständlich durch den Gegensatz, welcher sich bei dem Verfalle der Staaten und dem Verluste ihrer politischen Unabhängigkeit herausstellt.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:04 am

Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:51 pm

Nietzsche wrote:Der Handelsmann läßt sich seinen Überschuß an Geist zu hoch bezahlen; höhere Rassen wie z. B. die jüdische gerathen auch in den schrecklichsten Lagen nicht leicht in die äußerste Noth, sich als physische Maschinen vermiethen zu müssen.


Here is the Jewish race obviously contrasted with the modern Europeans. And in Vollgraff's order of rank of the nations the Jews are about 5 ranks higher than the Germans.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:44 am

Nietzsche, BGE, 20 wrote:I mean owing to the unconscious domination and guidance of similar grammatical functions—it cannot but be that everything is prepared at the outset for a similar development and succession of philosophical systems, just as the way seems barred against certain other possibilities of world-interpretation. It is highly probable that philosophers within the domain of the Ural-Altaic languages (where the conception of the subject is least developed) look otherwise "into the world," and will be found on paths of thought different from those of the Indo-Germans and Mussulmans, the spell of certain grammatical functions is ultimately also the spell of PHYSIOLOGICAL valuations and racial conditions.


The same connection between language and genes given by Vollgraff.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:32 am

Nietzsche's rescue-plan would look like this: the highest and most developed humans have sharpest senses and see truth better than others. Therefore is philosophy as the crown of all human development until now. Religion is just 'the first halftime' in human existence. Nietzsche is the turning point in history between religion and philosophy. He "breaks history in two" and represents the "great noontide". His Zarathustra creates an Earth society (included is just who choses to be and who believes in Übermensch). This society has different classes ... we see that he loves also simple workers who believe in Übermensch and work for this idea. There is obviously also a warrior class. Then a class of sublimes, an aristocracy, which naturally rises from the warriors. And then a class of philosophers, the Masters of Earth, which rise from the sublimes. They rule like the Greek pantheon of gods, i. e. like panphilosophers. The rest of humanity is observed as without rights. "If they don't give us we take it alone".


von Lasaulx wrote: "das Leben wächst von innen nach aussen, von unten nach oben, und stirbt ab von aussen nach innen, von oben nach unten. Aus dem Bauer wächst empor der Bürger, der Krieger, der Priester, der Edelmann, der Fürst; und wenn die ausgewachsen sind, so stirbt das Volksleben von oben nach unten ab: von den Dynastengeschlechtern anfangend geht der Auflösungsprocess successive abwärts, bis er zulezt auch den Bauernstand ergreift."
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Thu May 14, 2015 10:25 am

They discover, these sharp onlookers and loafers, that the end is quickly approaching, that everything around them decays and produces decay, that nothing will endure until the day after tomorrow, except one species of man, the incurably mediocre. The mediocre alone have a prospect of continuing and propagating themselves—they will be the men of the future, the sole survivors; "be like them! become mediocre!" is now the only morality which has still a significance, which still obtains a hearing.— But it is difficult to preach this morality of mediocrity! it can never avow what it is and what it desires! it has to talk of moderation and dignity and duty and brotherly love—it will have difficulty in concealing its irony!—
Attachments
darwin.jpg
darwin.jpg (41.25 KiB) Viewed 1041 times
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:02 pm

Nietzsche telling somewhere socialists have lazy hands and nationalists lazy heads.

Vollgraff telling somewhere it is not the lack of work that motivates the socialist movement, there is sufficient land to work, for hardworking hands.

What is then a national-socialist?
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:17 am

Vollgraff, Antike Politik, §. 18. (on religion) wrote:Die Religion der Griechen war nicht eine zur Erlösung und sittlichen Restauration eines verdorbenen und gesunkenen Menschen geschlechts offenbarte Religion, sondern eine aus dem sittlichen Character des ganzen Volks durch seine Dichter und Sänger ins Leben gerufene idealisirte Symbolik menschlicher Tugenden und Leidenschaften
...
Je menschlicher sich ein Volk seine Götter denkt, desto näher sind sie ihm; desto vertrauter wird es mit ihnen. — Es ist den Griechen die Idee, ihre Götter als Vorbilder der Sittlichkeit aufzustellen, gänzlich fremd geblieben; (denn sie trugen sie in sich selbst und formten nach ihr ihre Götterwelt


Same by Nietzsche somewhere or everywhere.

Most important, it is not about the "animal instincts" as modern pigs assume, but human instincts - passions AND VIRTUES!
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:30 pm

Vollgraff, Antike Politik, §. 18 wrote:d) Man wufste nichts von heiligen Büchern, feststehenden Dogmen und einer Priesterschaft als Auslegerin und Hüterin, denn es ruhte ihre Religion auf der Sittlichkeit, und wo diese nicht den Religions-Codex bildet, vermag kein geschriebener Codex sie zu erzielen. Die National-Tempel von Olympia und Delphi vereinigten vermöge eines sittlichen Bedürfnisses die griechische Welt um sich herum. Es war keine Glaubenspflicht‚ sie zu besuchen und zu beschenken, sondern man kam von selbst. M. s. die Stelle aus Isocrates bei Heeren S. 191.

e) Die alten Griechen beteten die Götter-Statuen selbst nicht an, sondern das Ideal, welches diese symbolisch darstellten. Einige christliche Kirchen lassen aber die Bilder selbst anbeten und verschaffen ihnen Anbetung, sonst wurden sie dieselben keine Wunder thun lassen.



The Greek religion was based on virtues and customs, and virtues are ideal(ism)s. TSZ is also an ideal.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
Historyboy
Thinker
 
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

Previous

Return to Philosophy



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

cron