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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby The Golden Turd » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:34 am

Oh, and Cezar, you asked if I was living with my mother? Yes and no, she is my spiritual mother.... I suppose its akin to that lady of the petite-nobility who adopted you as a pet and taught you the ways of your nobility. It was through her I gained a depth of understanding of the other ancient churches other than Roman Catholicism, and when my mother went insane and fled, she essentially took the emotional role of a mother I never really had, I was always more a councillor to my father, or a disposed father figure.

I live in the utter collapse of the end game of socialism. You never paused to question why a 'Christian' such as me, with all your ideological presuppositions, would be so brutally opposed to socialism, despite its seeming obvious gains to me.

My community was the most socialistic in my nation, we had the largest employee owned business in the US, a steel mill- straight up proletarian stuff, a integrated free medical system for the poor, etc..... and when I was a teenager watched it all collapse from repeated labor strikes and shit rotten electorate system, and complete non-understanding of strategic elements on the part of the union in dealing with mergers and international competition. You may not like me, but you know what I am- a master of history and strategy, with emphasis on technical and administrative organization, a background in psychology and law. It's obvious what my eventual place would of been.... but the system became too rotten and collapsed before I was even a adult. It was growing me, and I came to fruition after its death.... as a son of my society, how do you think that eats at me? To see younger sisters of kids I grew up with to be turned into malnourished whores, finding they are beaten or committed suicide? Not a few isolated cases, many. Or the joys of knowing the highest concentrations of Casinos in the nation per capita is in your town? We have a small population.... even smaller after the demographics collapse.

There is next to no work here. Everytime I put my ruck on to leave, I get nothing but tears..... fears of me being homeless. I was infantry, it's not a issue, the lack of jobs is.... I need to go to where they are. But if I stay, My teeth grind.... I see nothing but decay, and the methods to solve this is cheap and stupid simple. Just I literally have zero dollars, the few handfuls I earn go to ebooks or dropped on a starving retarded family nearby who's mother I used to tutor in business.

My return was precipated by two factors.... Coming to a negative conclusion of my agriculture project in Hawaii- not for technical reasons but utter decadence and corruption from excessive bribing of local politicians to look away so NOTHING edible is ever farmed in Hawaii, and the discovery my younger brother fell into the drug culture and was jailed.

My goal was a very simple goal, get on the scene, inquire into the reasons he got involved, figure out the bahavior of the drug culture, and smash it.

It's a very simple, stupid easy solution to boot, I only need a few specialized parts (but not in unrealistic, that I've already located online) to complete the mechanical portion, and contacts with the local sheriff's department to have it mapped out and tactically implemented, targeting the locations of residential drug manufactures in real time, on a easy to prove scientifically determinable basis akin to fingerprint identification by reading the variation of the light spectrum. It will have very substantial global implications. It's a few thousand dollars, and I'm seep rated from it by societal rot.

I've been translating old philosophy books from Hindi to English constructing the first ever theory of mind mapped on a neurological basis for pure mathematics so as to give a cognitive framework for these discoveries, so they may proceed faster.... as well as beginning translation of a old Byzantine infantry-guerrilla warfare manual so the officers of my country can become more competent historically and tactically.

I've also been liberally dispersing knowledge of geology, showing people where to find molding clay and fossils, and have been active with my local museum, tracking down archeological sites. I occasionally get drafted into political nothingness, and find myself blank face in the city building or state capital, the offices of which always have mason magazines now.... a sign if how far we've fallen intellectually.

I study law on the side, reasons 'The Flexible Constitution' which is a Wittgensteinian analysis of Original Intent. A lot of silly, backwards ultraliberal literature ends up here. Whatever dreams I've had of reading law for four years under a lawyer and then taking the bar is quickly fading.... I know of no honest, respectable lawyers to ask, the only one I knew was 106 and died a year ago. I feel a great tradition of Appalachian Law has essentially died, there are no longer lawyers of faith and republican duty anymore. I only see disease and decay, crime and atheism.

It was my community that started the first Ranger regiment. We started a war that culminated into the French and Indian War.... what you know as the Seven Years War. We built the first industrial complex west of the Appalachian Mountains, supplied the war materials to defeat the British Navy on the Great Lakes. George Washington himself was the first to record our towns location. We grew into the largest steel industry in the US. The Second World War was fought with materials we made. No other people proportionally has given more men to the military than us.

We followed the liberals every demand and assurance. We were industrial giants, and resultingly the biggest polluters. When I was a kid, I made a lot of money sweeping up rusted ash on the sidewalks. We went from one of the dirtiest to cleanest, the most capitalistic to socialist, segregated into intergrated.... and those very same people buttfucked us royally in the time of our greatest need. We don't own the mill, half of which is torn down, other half soon enough, we don't have the capacity to even produce our own power, having to import it, the most liberal area near us, Chicago, has colonized us gang and drug wise, people are murdered and tape, poverty rampant.... and then when Obama is elected, we are even called racist and not the 'kind of people who would vote for him" with exaggerated exclamation marks, implying backwards racism.

Had the system survived, I likely would if become its intellectual tip if its spear. It didn't, it collapsed under its own self-deceit and political gambling, and strategic triage.

You can mock me for staying with a 'parent', but even in my most pathetic of states, I still do more and am worth more, even under a generalized Nietzschean conception of health, for my people, as well as countless others. I face the disgust of the ends to a history, a largely lost and decayed system. I struggle to comprehend how someone of my looks and intellect began his intellectual journey here.... if I leave I am not the last, merely witness to the last. If I stay, perhaps the last merely staving off a total rout. I miss traveling. Running forums for intellectual debates, having a occasional student. Everything here has long ago given up or is too fried from drugs to notice. I live in the ruins if the final stage of socialism, and nothing can be more disastrous than it. I can comprehend the shock of say, Michael Moore to the systematic collapse of his similar town Flint Michigan, but he didn't have to see the horrid end results of just what happens when his brand of socialism comes into play. I live in its ruins, a ruin which is spreading. It's enevitable, as certain as the march of suicide liberalism and unrestrained socialism, we are heading to social and economic collapse and decay.

I am here to help the people I once knew to put a few things straight, get my relatives back on my feet, pay a emotional debt to my kin, before likely pushing on. I would prefer a flooded ditch as a home over this long term... the women don't even look right.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:34 am

This topic is unfortunately also approachable for Nietzsche shitheads.

Stupid Americans are collapsing the entire fucking world.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Stuart » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:23 am

Interesting, CN, certainly not archival, maybe it's none of my business, but if historyboy is Cezar then why does he act like he doesn't know you?
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:44 pm

I think discussing identities is illegal on all message boards. Besides, not discussing anything is also a right that shall be sanctioned by the moderators.

One should be able to discuss only on request and approval of both sides. That is called respect. A respectful discussion is that of humans. An angry of animals.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Flannel Jesus » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:43 am

If you used to go by the name Cezar here (which apparently you did) then it's not really a case of 'revealing your identity' by my judgement. If he were posting pictures of your passport, that would be another matter.

But I'm not the moderator on this forum, Only_Humean is. It's up to him.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:09 am

Unless I'm not under another name, this is my only identity. Maybe I'll request a Christian username on this forum...
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Stuart » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:36 pm

What about Christian Overman, wouldn't that be a fun name....?
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:03 am

Societies collapse and perish not because of the lack of resources, but because when the people reach the goal a culture has set up for them, then "the culture starts falling apart". And the closer the higher stratas are toward the given goal, in the Greek case it was the ideal Homeric hero or Dionysus (Alexander is the Homeric hero and Dionysus) the weaker are the lover stratas. We can imagine that a lower class man will suffer at the sight of a higher man, just as a wild animal escapes from human beings. This suffering and this envy will force him to abandon his morals and all his hopes.

The question is only if there are any other fruits of such a culture than the simple books. If maybe some people continue to live a new existence outside of the imploding culture, or was it just an ebb and tide without any consequences on the global scale. Do they produce a culture in order to give it to another population in the form of books?
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby The Golden Turd » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:11 am

I'll let his use Christian Overman, it was a scam used to toy with the Nietzscheans, especially Taz.

He pretends like he doesn't know me because he's had his butt handed to me several times in the past, if he deals with me head on he faces more lost of face.

Historyboy was a persona on nietzscheforum I forgot all about. It's definitely Cezar, just he can't log into his old account. He hasn't done anything wrong in making a new account if the administer of the site is reluctant to help him get back into it for privacy reasons.

However, this is definitely Cezar.

I've been thinking of dedicating a small video to Nietzsche's thought on YouTube to Cezar... with a cat walking on its legs beneath it.

I missed you Cezar.... your what keeps me going with this studying of Nietzsche.... sometimes I question if its worth it, if all the Nietzscheans are as bone dry boring as Fixed Cross and Sauwelios, or just a bunch of Emos in college doing drugs, and then I see you post something utterly asinine, and it just puts a smile on my face. I wanna like, put you in a joyful headlock and give you nuggies till you say uncle, hearing you scream crazy medieval stuff on women not able to think because the menstruate, or how incest is preferred, or your bashing of Malthus theory of supply and population growth, or how old men make better ground soldiers.... we can do a comedy act traveling the country, you earnestly saying random things, 'people craw on four legs in democracy like dogs' or 'Christians live in Hindu cremation cemeteries, lying on cadaviers'.

It's funny, because unlike Sauwelios who says it with a orthodox morbundity, unwilling to change the language despite knowing at times it sounds as crazy as the Mormon Underwear Ceremony, your a true believer.

I honestly think that if Cezar ever became finally convinced Nietzsche had syphilus, he would go to the very whorehouse he got infected in (Nietzsche claimed infection twice to his doctor), just to be that much closer to Nietzsche. He is a true believer in everything he says, no matter how stupid, backwards, or twisted it is. Cezar has no will of his own, never would dream of having his own ideas or opinions, and is zealotly attracted in full idiotic exuberance for anything everything Nietzsche.

It's why I like Cezar more than any other poster on the net.... he says the most fucked up shit in the world.... my eyes are attracted to every post he makes, something utterly wrong will come out.... and on his end, he thinks he's sane, justified, is doing something great and justified.

Only thing approachable to watching/interacting with the twisted Alice Bot that is Cezar is watching videos of Afgans try to use mortars as shouldered rocket launchers, or people chopping down trees being crushed by trees, or of monkies dressed up like humans. It's that kind of deep seated twisted appreciation I have for him.

If I could put him in a cage, and feed him pellets in return for his spiteful sayings, I would. It would never grow old.

I've missed you so much man. Lay some more crazy down on this forum.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby The Golden Turd » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:52 am

Cezar, culture depreciates on the flip of a coin, nothing depreciates faster without massive overlaying of ritual. Ritual is tactical thought with a strategic mindset forced into the unconscious.

Technical thought dominates currently. The capacity to infinitely reorient to new art, ideas, landmarks, philosophies is instant and perishable.

This is cultivating aspects of INTJ thought- it's very much our civilization. The fundamental issue is, most people can't cognitively pull off that thinking style.

Eventually, our tech will formalize, much as early twentieth century tech did, and variations will narrow.

My area went from wilderness to the very heart of the US's industrialization process, and then collapsed. Our infrastructure was attuned- goads, rails, and bridges to tax collection and civic administration, to a dualism of capitalism working with democracy. Now it's entrenched socialistic taxing, police operating not through tax but grants (hence our inability to control them), and the rise of big as well as small casinos.

The culture is Facebook, YouTube. Teachers telling them massive debt for college is only way to succeed, mortgage gets a house, and they are entitled to dream any dream, so long as its degree backed.

I know your Yugoslavia was fucked up by socialism too, but wasn't perfect prior either. Your village is impoverished. However, they are also stagnant.... largely unable to leave.

Many do leave here.... their teachers tell them 'so and so has the best financial possibilities' and those most easiest lured my safety, easy wealth, and short term sheltered gain rush it. If its a trade, they glut the market with the skill, if another country, they eagerly learn the language.

However, everything these days is largely group think internationally.

It's easier for me to train a student in military philosophy because despite the ways you rework the logic of the mind over a few years to absorb it, the physical component sets you isolated.... hiking, or learning to think on the basis of threat assessment first.... these are solitary acts even when in a group. It's a better platform for long term growth.

This being martial philosophy is as broad and ancient as civil schools of philosophy. The idea of a corps maintaining a 'culture of rules and rituals' is easy to believe, of long term philosophical emphasis much less.... it's been tried countless times, and produces unique paradoxes in adaption.... it's not possible.

I prefer technological fixes. Fix food supply, for my camera tech to stabilize drug/terrorism, etc that can be built upon by others down the road.

This current culture of socialism, civic neglect, and hatred of forms and rituals will pass... we entered into it during the Rosicrucian era, the rebellions of the young hegelians (Nietzsche included) overthrew much in Europe..... But all it did was make certain personality types in culture exhibit the same shit headed behaviors of the old regime.

We live in a era of self hatred, confusion, atheism, suicide, and drug use.... and we're told it's reason- the triumph of enlightenment. We even have a doctor in the US delivering babies and then decapitating them! Yes, reason indeed. Soylent Green was reason too.

It will pass, there is too much instability and malaise, too much of the population is frantic for a solution... hence the embrace of a easy fix, in large part the cause of the crisis- socialism.

Once it occurs to administrators that having a settled, productive and largely self sufficient population is a good thing, and not the far flung absurd acrobatics of this age of neglect and poorly thought out idealism, things will change.

The only growth construction wise in the US, using new architecture, are spiraling, out of control university complexes teaching everything quite poorly.... the rush to standardize electronic innovations and intergrate them more and more intuitively sounds great to the universities, but will eventually in tern be their undoings.

Once that happens, it will be very difficult for the personality types, such as Sauwelios, to disperse their ideas in a acceptable format. Likewise, INTJs will have less influence as a IPhone version 47 just isn't going to be anymore impressing than the ten version prior to it.... with the major apps preloaded.

Once that happens, your era of stagnant, maliable culture will reoccure. It's a kind of kyklos cycle for personality receptivity to civilization. When writing and ocean trade occur, we had a similar destabilization.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:13 pm

The slave needs a master. The Christian needs an "evil man" to justify his will to power ... because he was taught for centuries that those on top of the society are evil, and now ... look who is on top of the society ... Christians have no more consolation ... that is why drugs are everywhere in the democratic parliaments, detected in the toilets ... as Nietzsche said, now they will see that they have not more right than their enemies and that they stand on the same ground of will to power and desire the same hated political power as their enemies. And that is what leads them to destruction (or even the morality to self-destrucion)... when it shows up as immoral ... then the self-destruction of the futile occurs... with drugs ("poisoning") etc.

Why would CN celebrate anybody posting about Nietzsche on an internet forum? Perhaps he thinks the democrats need to rule in order to keep the world safe from people who read Nietzsche? Is that the new consolation of the Christians?

Where would the moderators stand if that were the case?
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby lizbethrose » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:46 am

Contra-Nietzsche, you puzzle me.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Stuart » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:58 am

lizbethrose wrote:Contra-Nietzsche, you puzzle me.


Lately I have sort of made him my hobby, but certainly not to the extend that he made Cezar his.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Only_Humean » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:31 pm

C-N (and others), don't derail the thread. If there's anything else you want to talk about, please start a new one.

And everyone: keep things civil.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:46 pm

Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Mon May 06, 2013 11:49 pm

It could be Vollgraff is involved too:

Ethnognosie und Ethnologie wrote:a) Ueberall stirbt eine nation von oben nach unten moralisch ab, d. h. das Verderbniss ergreift zuerst die höchsten Klassen, die natürliche Aristokratie, und gelangt erst ganz zuletzt bis zur grossen Masse,
wie wir dies bereits §. 475. angedeutet haben. "Der Kern der Völker verhält sich im Allgemeinen noch leidend als ein mehr oder weniger empfangliches Erdreich für die böse Saat; dieser Volkskern ist aber
eine Masse , die nicht als positive Kraft, sondern nur als Schwere durch ihre geringe Entzündbarkeit dem Uebel widerstrebt. Der Sitz des Uebels ist immer im höheren Theile des Volkes , aber in allen Ständen,
insbesondere bei den halbgebildeten." Reutel. Auch Aristoteles, Politik III, 15 sagt schon: "So wie eine grosse Menge Wasser nicht so leicht in Faulniss übergeht, als eine kleine Quantität desselben, so kann auch eine grosse Anzahl von Menschen nicht so leicht moralisch Verderben als Einer oder wenige".

b) ...
Auch lese man noch die Klagen über die Versunkenheit des heutigen Menschengeschlechts bei Schubert I. c. S. 37 und 38. und Suabedissen I. c. S. 40. 193. 194 und 235; nur dass auch Letzterer zu glauben schien, wir halten unsere Mittagshöhe noch zu erklimmen, während wir doch darüber längst hinaus sind.


Two scenes, maybe TSZ - relevant. Both dealing with morals.


Basically, a culture declines when the language degenerates. (this is now independent from the post) Customs and morals too. The point is that it seems that the German language didn't degenerate until the end: thus the decadence must come from outside, not from the weakness! but luxury etc. already entered the society(it was also beloved by the northern German barbarians bordering with Rome). Nietzsche's answer was that the Western decadence comes from Christianity, because the Christian god wants luxury - he is an old decadent man. That is why N's Zarathustra attacks Christianity and fights for the moral renewal of Europe. But Zumpt gives a good argument (at the end of the book) by claiming that Christianity actually desires sensual pleasures and is fully in harmony with the Roman decadence, well as it's religious expression and even the "heavenly kingdom" on Earth is to be imagined as a decadent party. Such arguments would give a stronger sound to his Antichrist.
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat May 11, 2013 11:45 pm

Here they are, all together, Including Vollgraff!

http://www.sezession.de/6532/dokumentat ... rfall.html
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Thu May 16, 2013 11:01 am

Vollgraff: Anthropognosie, Ethnognosie, Polygnosie ... I have the feeling that sentences from TSZ are already raining there!
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:26 am

A documentary: The Power of Nightmares – The Rise of the Politics of Fear

"Oh, why am I a decadent? Wait, I need to kill the evil, if I don't kill the evil, I will remain a decadent!"
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:43 pm

"Death of the people" from TSZ was probably happening from the 13th until the 15th century. Vollgraff puts 3 markers into the history of people and sets a lifetime of 800+300 for each population. The beginning of all European populations is set in the Migration Period and finds an equivalent period in ancient Greece in the conquest of Troy. The second marker are the invasions of the crusaders and its equivalent are the Persian invasions. But it is remarkable that this invasions are not going from the same directions.
And the third marker was laid at the point of appearance of the Great Men of whom the 15th century was full, and it's equivalent in ancient Greece was Alexander. The period around the 10th century was the time where many European people have abandoned their religions and gods, which is for Zarathustra a crucial sign.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Historyboy » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:53 pm

Here is an aphorism from Karl Friedrich Vollgraff which explains in my opinion a half of Thus Spoke Zarathustra. It is in German, but that could be a good filter against the flies from the market...

We can remember how many excellent people were expelled from Athens through ostracism and atimia.

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Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Historyboy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:22 pm

Is this not Zarathustra?

"c) Die subjective Aufklärung ist, wie gesagt, die Erkenntnifs des eigenen Charakters durch den eigenen Verstand, aber der eigene Verstand ist nicht kräftig genug, seinen Nachbar den eigenen Charakter zu erkennen, wenn ihm die sittliche Kraft dabei nicht die Hindernisse negativ wegräumt, nemlich die rohen Leidenschaften verschwinden, welche den Verstand am ruhigen Denken hindern. Der See der sittlichen Kraft läfst sich vom Verstände nur dann befahren und sondiren, wenn Windstille herrscht, d. h. keine unsittlichen Leidenschaften toben." - Vollgraff, Oekumenische Politik, §. 6. 7. Was ist Aufklärung?
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Historyboy » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:06 pm

"Freundschaft ist das Zusammenfliefsen zweier Willen in einen, so dafs daraus nun ein Leben zweier Wesen entsteht" - Vollgraff. Wahre Freundschaft ist also wenn man alles für das andere Wesen tut, während die wahre Liebe nur ein Wunsch nach alles-tun ist und deshalb unter der wahren Freundschaft steht. "Nicht Mangel an Liebe sondern Mangel an Freundschaft macht schlechte Ehen." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Orbie » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:18 pm

Historyboy wrote:Is this not Zarathustra?

"c) Die subjective Aufklärung ist, wie gesagt, die Erkenntnifs des eigenen Charakters durch den eigenen Verstand, aber der eigene Verstand ist nicht kräftig genug, seinen Nachbar den eigenen Charakter zu erkennen, wenn ihm die sittliche Kraft dabei nicht die Hindernisse negativ wegräumt, nemlich die rohen Leidenschaften verschwinden, welche den Verstand am ruhigen Denken hindern. Der See der sittlichen Kraft läfst sich vom Verstände nur dann befahren und sondiren, wenn Windstille herrscht, d. h. keine unsittlichen Leidenschaften toben." - Vollgraff, Oekumenische Politik, §. 6. 7. Was ist Aufklärung?
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Postby Historyboy » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:01 pm

When Nietzsche said he would give a deadly stroke to all modern people, this can be founded in the entire book of Vollgraff called Modern nations of Europe...
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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