a new church

Life is change, change/truth are discomfort for many. Hence, the delay of our natural advancement. So yes, life is discomfort.

Do you think it was comfort when the big bang happened to create all that is? Is it comfortable for a black hole to rip apart a dying star to create new, and quasar energy? Is it comfortable for a woman to give birth to life?

Discomfort > Comfort. Destruction to creation, chaos to order, darkness to light.

Profiting from what? With new life/children, comes new thinking, with new thinking comes new discovery of which can nullify old as fact and bring forth new belief of what is to be fact, or perhaps indisputable true fact.

Haha. I happen to know that the “Big Bang” is a “Big Hoax”.

It doesn’t matter that “life is change” because during that change, caused by discomfort, discomfort is what is being avoided, else it wouldn’t change. But now you say to embrace the discomfort, which would prevent any change and thus NO GROWTH.

Your stance is against yourself.

Do you have any proof of the big bang being a hoax?

Discomfort is not something to be avoided. People fear the unknown, that is discomfort. Change is new, new is what is unknown. I say to embrace discomfort in the sense of embracing change and not fearing what is not known. Too accept difference.

Difference > New > Change > Advancement (if exercised and executed properly).

My stance isn’t against myself at all.

are you guys having fun…this should be changed to the sandbox…

Profiting from people believing that THEY know best and are never really wrong.

Proof to you means them telling you. I have a different kind of proof requiring you to be able to think on your own.

Oh really?
So millions of years of evolution got it wrong?

The “unknown” is mathematically provable to be more dangerous than the known. It is wisdom to avoid the unknown, such as “stick with the devil you know”.

And if discomfort isn’t involved, how do you define “advancement”?

It should have started there, but frankly, it really is still on topic.

No proof or evidence, means no changing my mind. You called and deny the Fibonacci fake, yet try to pull mathematics of what is provable on me?

It is not wisdom to avoid the unknown, that kind of thinking would have us back in the cave still. I’m done here.

You have been “done” for quite some time, incapable of answering to the problems of your own stance.

James,

This is irrelevant. Instead of explaining or supporting your own words you deflect to the character of the other person.

You can’t have a conversation with the assumption the other person can’t understand you.

You imply Artimas can’t think for himself. Being unable to think for yourself is stupidity. You have effectively called him stupid. Therefore, there is no point in you supporting your statements.

Hardly. He asked for proof concerning an off topic issue. What constitutes proof is in the eyes of the purviewer. He has already demonstrated that he believes whatever is said in pop-science magazines as “Science” and “proof”. I am not obligated on this forum or thread to prove to him that he is using the wrong standard for proof. But better that I state it than simply ignore him.

And the on topic issue was “in who do we place our faith”?

“I deny science! Yet I use it everyday by being on the internet and technology of which derived out of it!”

^ James

And his default answer has been, suffer whatever they require of you because pop-science magazines know “what is” (formerly know as “God”).

James

If the issue were simply off topic, you would have said that instead. That’s not how you responded. You responded with a jibe.

Are you lying or just naive?
And didn’t you just say that diverting to the character of the person was something bad?

It was probably off topic, you’re right about that. It should have been the subject of a different thread. But when asked to support your statement, you attacked Artimas.

tell me how…it should not have started in the sandbox…it goes to the heart of the religious sickness that we have

You want to change stuff, but you can’t predict what the change will look like? And you think that is a rational approach?

I’m certainly not willing to buy a pig in a poke.

Tesla worked for Westinghouse Electric Company. Without Westinghouse’s funding and production, his inventions would not have seen light of day. Inventors need business and business needs inventors … it’s a symbiotic relationship.

Electricity can’t be free. Somebody has to pay for generation, distribution, conversion … generators, transmission wires, light bulbs, motors.

The internet is full of free electricity ideas. There is not even enough power available to charge an AA battery quickly.

You do realize, most of his inventions didn’t see the light of day due to sleazy businessmen ruining his credibility right? Why do you think we DON’T have free energy right now.

“Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.” -Nikola Tesla-

Here is a basic explanation of what Tesla wanted.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQirK_9NbE[/youtube]

It’s true as well, I never even HEARD of Tesla in history while I went to public “education” I learned of him all on my own.

The change will be green, as I have said. Knowledge, created happiness, compassion, and health would govern. Quick technological advance as well.