Experimentation, discovery, logic, correlations, facts of which cannot be denied.
What is ‘viable knowledge’?
Jesus taught about greed, hate and self-importance. What’s wrong with his teachings about it?
You think you know what life is, yet you say “government, money, and material” That’s a human created version of life. We are not the center of this world, though people love to think we are.
Like Sub said, it’s Jungle-ception.
There is nothing wrong with his teachings, it’s the fact that A. He referenced him self to something that doesn’t exist (god). B. Half of his story is fallacy mixed. C. He became teacher over teachings by these things.
So we are all to worship whatever is said in the name of Science?
We certainly can’t gain such knowledge ourselves.
What happens when they decide to lie for greater influence and power?
The Ministry of Science is the new Pope?
Everything you do has negative effects. They can be reduced in some respects but not entirely eliminated.
How can there be lies when everyone is knowledgeable of what is. Facts are what is. Who’s to say we can’t get such knowledge for ourselves? People can do what they want.
“Science fiction today ~ Science fact tomorrow” - Isaac Asimov
Imagination can lead to fact of which we may create for ourselves. Hence, the technology we have today, was imagination/science fiction in ‘Star Trek’ of the past
Of course, there will always be. But surely that is not the case for what is happening in today’s time and era. It has not been put to it’s minimal, because people aren’t informed, they reject new, change, difference, etc. Difference is the starting point for advancement.
I did not even recognize this post as a response to me. It would be helpful to me and probably to others if you identified who you are quoting, especially when you are quoting multiple people in a single post. It seems like you have blended together the words of multiple people as a single position to which you respond.
Sure, in principle, it’s logically possible. I wouldn’t bet on it though, considering what the circumstances currently are and what they’re likely to be in the future.
How did they gain “knowledge of what is” if not from the same liars?
I still don’t understand what you are trying to say.
Money, material objects(possessions), government … clearly exist. They are useful in many ways.
You want to get rid of them. And what you the world without these things look like? How would it be better?
You’re saying Einstein is a liar, Tesla, Plato, and all of the great minds are liars?
Are you saying the world is flat because they’re liars?
I have to amend this. Instead of saying definitely that it is possible for that wisdom to flip, I can only really say that I don’t know it is impossible.
sorry, my bad. I thought that both those posts came from Artimas. 
What I am saying is that no one has proposed anything but FAITH in others and they just quible about who the others are to be, a religious battle.
I happen to know that Einstein, for example but the others as well, said things that were not true, not intentionally lying. Yet it is proposed that the world accept what they said and use what they said to gauge new truths - thus an eternal lie.
You’re asking me to tell you the future, I am not a prophet. People find comfort in these material things, when they should be embracing discomfort and what is different. What is beyond the veil is advancement, discovery, new, change, etc. Yet people are solely satisfied with their realities full of money and material, buying what geniuses put out, yet don’t do anything to contribute to our advancement. It’s time for the majority to give something back to the geniuses who built this reality for them, then abuse it. I am not saying government shouldn’t exist. I am saying material/wealth govern life, and it shouldn’t. People have lost track of the natural path of humanity (advancement, of which is being delayed) to be absorbed into a comfortable one.
I am a man of which wants to address the blatant negative aspects of reality/world, of which great minds in the past have clearly said “All aspects of reality/life cannot be addressed alone.” What is my one reality vs 7 billion added up?
Take for example, if we listened to Tesla’s ideas about free energy and coils instead of businessman Edison, we would of had free energy and probably have star-ships and who know’s what other technological advance. That was but one of many delays to the advancement of the human race. The rejection of difference is delay. Instead of paying for electricity, etc.
That’s like saying “What would the world look like without all of my money!? Waaah” I don’t know, maybe it’d look like the world we’re destroying/changing unknowingly while inside of our jungle of comfort.
yep, no worries
I thought you wanted people to embrace what life is about. Embracing discomfort is NOT what life is about, at all, quite the opposite.
Faith, is not blind faith.
They’re not lies, they’re beliefs to be what are facts, but then change later on of which nullify them as facts in the first place.
Who is going to “nullify them” if not those profiting from them in the first place?