You’d take the Hells Angel over the cop any day. The cop is actually required to exercise and may even be trained in fighting. The Hells Angel is more like a jelly doughnut with terrible cardio whose sitting down in front of a tattoo gun chainsmoking if he isn’t on his bike or sleeping on somebody’s couch.
You’re just gonna pull his shirt up over his head, and as he thrashes about, you just kick em in the nutts. You don’t even have to fuck with em and get em all angry and out of breath before you beat his ass. Admittedly, that would have more style, but whose watching the fight? A bunch of hillbillies?
Who would be watching you every breath you take, every move you make, every bond you break, and every step you take?
…no problem, I’ll see my own way out
You joke, but I truly believe that The Big State exists mainly by virtue of filling that void in the hearts of a critical mass.
Vigilantes I believe is the word you’re looking for followed by mob rule.
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Vigilante is when a regular Joe takes the functions of the police upon himself. Gang law is a replacement on a higher level of abstraction.
Gangsters aren’t prowling the streets looking for law breakers. They simply have an idea of how they like things to be and, if you mess with that order, they will hear about it, have the resources and training to find you, and the violence monopoly and motivation to do something about it.
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Under economic capitalism the motto of our national police force here should be,
“To protect and serve the wealthier of our community.”
There, I said it.
Organized crime and mafias are largely self serving in terms of profit seeking, I doubt they would concern themselves of enforcing laws for the rest of community considering their entire existence revolves around covertly violating such.
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That’s because you have lived in a protected bubble all your life and have only heard of organized crime from movies.
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@Mary-Poppins
How wrong you very much are. Go ask your Hell’s Angels and ask them if they want to replace the national police force.
Better yet go ask the Mexican Mafia, Mongols, Latin Kings, or Yakuza.
You’re being silly at this rate.
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I guess the comic books you read were very vivid.
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“I doubt they would concern themselves of enforcing laws for the rest of community”
They are often great philanthropists. Your homeboy Pablo was constantly buying shit for the peoples and the childrens.
The catch is, other peoples and childrens in other countries gotta do a lot of coke for him to be able to do that.
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“Better yet go ask the Mexican Mafia, Mongols, Latin Kings, or Yakuza”
No, they all enjoy the support and admiration of the peoples in the comoonities because it reduces the number of snitches and raises the number of allies so the gangs can fuck the other half of the city more easily.
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What’s funnier is that the lyrics of “Every breath you take” were about stalking someone. Sting did tell International Music and Recording World in 1985: “That song is about surveillance and ownership, possession, jealousy; emotions that we all have.”… and “It sounds like a comforting love song. I didn’t realise at the time how sinister it is. I think I was thinking of Big Brother, surveillance and control”
Quite an odd choice for a wedding song.
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I’d prefer the cop over the dude who can shoot you on a whim though.
Also we are talking different standards to begin with. American policing is a f-ing disease.
There is no end to the list of instances where cops are just given a gun and sent to the street to shoot every and anything on the basis of being afraid for their own life.
And ofc then the department, chief and persecutor all circle the wagons around them.
Believe it or not, thats not how most countries are.
This sh*t is unique to america, just like many other things including the “we are the good guys, watch us kill thousands to millions on a 3-30 month basis”.
My experience is that cops in the US, compared with 70% of the planet, are soft and gun shy. Not sure we have been living in the same planet.
In any case, people walking around with guns and knowledge of proximity to the center of gravity of violence can and do shoot people, for reasons you may or may not agree with. This is emphatically not what sets cops apart from gang members.
An Angel can’t, or, anyway, won’t shoot you on a whim either. That’s another “are we on the same planet” moment. When you join an organization, a gang, there are rules and codes. The penalty for breaking them is ruthless and swift.
Here’s a better question: what would put you awry of a gang member such that they decide that they want to and can shoot you?
The majority are. And then you have the exceptions which are exceptional planet wide, because you wont see that level of insanity and corruption unless you are looking at some african third world warlords maintained nation.
Yeah im afraid thats not the track record of biker gangs.
Is this supposed to be a joke?
Do you know prison culture? I do.
You pick very carefully whom you gonna maintain an eye contact with unless you feel like having boxing match or shanking.
Are you female per chance? Because that would explain one part of why you are probably never going to experience what the average man does.
No, I just think you are trying to walk backwards from dynamics you know and what you see in movies and the news to what a gang must operate as, and coming up with not really reality.
It’s on me, I assumed the things that are obvious and common knowledge to me would be to any one.
You also seem to have some slection of what constitutes the pool of countries in your head, and it has some exclusions, but I don’t know what that pool is. Maybe you don’t consider all countries to be human? I’m not really sure.
But ask almost any one from almost anywhere, personal safety (including from the cops) is one of the major reasons people migrate there in the first place. You strike me as oddly disconnected.
For example?
“My experience is that cops in the US, compared with 70% of the planet, are soft and gun shy”
I’m not even gonna call for any real data about that. I’m gonna just pretend I’m watching the Don spout off numbers he pulls out of thin air because he knows nobody but the CNN fact checkers will bother verifying any of it… and maga doesn’t watch CNN.
In real reality… not weird forum reality… what you said sounds absurd on its face. Like you could know only a little about the U.S. and still you’d be like ‘wait a minute… that just don’t sound right’.
If you love crime, civil disorder and mafia mob-rule living under constant threat of violence theft and murder, then sure. Maybe it wouldn’t be that bad 
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I find it hard to take criticism about civil order seriously from a supporter of Islamist national socialist theocracies.
But let’s briefly dispense with these gossip girl blurbs. Crime: it already and always will exist.
It’s interesting, actually, to contemplate that the very gravitational center of crime, which must always be gang (organized) crime, is so naturally prone to crime control. It makes sense, because crime control is already a crime, it is the arbitrary employment of violence to impose an idea of the correct way of things.
Probably humanity past the ultra-violent is perfectly capable of resolving its problems without any enforcement. But that is not humanity. Violence is part of human nature, on a group level. There will always be those who feel a need to live a life around it. How much of a difference is there between an army soldier and a gang soldier?
Civil disorder: this is a fantasy that has no basis in reality. Or maybe you have an argument?
Constant threat of violence, theft and murder: what gives you the idea that this would be in a different degree under gang regulation than police regulation? Is enforcement really what dictates the incidences of these things? What, exactly, do you base this idea on?
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